Instant overhead j.L
In this particular team, you don’t want to use bolts as a means for hit confirming, you’re using him to give fullscreen lockdown for iron fist’s high/low mixup. Potentially very powerful.
the biggest problem with using strange assist is that he’s out for so long and people will take the opportunity to punish… a lot especially if they have beam supers. it is a great lockdown assist but Iron Fist cant cover Strange that well unless you wave dash instantly into their face once you call the assist otherwise. he’s eating damage
Instant overhead j.L only works on character specific crouching characters (timing is also very strict), and worth it if you were using a fuzzy setup (which if so you’re better off using j.H) or Xfactoring into a kill. j.L doesn’t have enough hitstun and IF jumps too high for him to do anything after. Fullscreen lockdown for high/lows? The problem with this is, if they’re already crouching before bolts, trying to get them to stand for high/lows is difficult. Iron Fist normal jump ins are much too slow and jump normals are low on active frames leaving him open for grabs and the like. However it is what I’ve been doing and trying to work on. The bulk of IF mixups will probably come from that anyways. So I’m just saying to use it with caution.
But yes the bolts are used for the lockdown so that Iron Fist may have the opportunity to get in and try to land a mixup or even grabs for that matter, which I have to emphasize are very strong with this team, because grabs lead to meter positive death still. Yes Iron Fist can’t cover Strange that well but if you’re not dashing right when you call the assist then I don’t know what else you’d be doing. Remember that Strange himself is still a very good point character with good matchups when Iron Fist is near to none, especially when Strange is stocked with a lot of meter built by this team. His zoning paired with Iron Fist Rising Fang assist is very useful against many characters.
Hey guys, i’m new to the whole fighting game community and such. I figured since i’m okay at SSF4:AE I might as well try my hand at what I really wanna play and be good at, UMVC3. Since I live in the mississipi area it really isn’t possible for me to get competitive since most competitive fighting games I see are based in California. But anyway, I just started playing last night and I’ve been watching alot of competitive play and assist me, and I decided to go with Iron Fist as my main. At the moment, my team consists of Iron Fist, Vergil, and Wolverine, always leading Iron Fists on point. I have a kind of krappy fight stick, (Hori Ex Arcade 2) and the ball on top of the stick spins in my hand, so combos have been hard to get used too. But I figure I might as well use it until I get good enough to where buying a better one would have a point. I can do all the regular stuff, dhc’s thc’s x factor cancels, wave dashes and the likes but I have trouble doing Iron Fists chi powers and his OTG. But anyway, I haven’t been liking wolverine on my team all that much and I was wondering what wold be a better character for my team in his place, that’s easy enough for a noob like myself to learn how to play.
I can no longer leave a prospective Iron Fist player hanging.
First, the ball top: Open your stick, on the bottom of the actual joystick part should be a screw. Hold the ball top and tighten it with a screwdriver.
For comboing with IF, the best advice I can give is to slow down. His comobs require a rhythm other characters don’t need. Buffer your inputs and really exaggerate your quarter circle motions.
And for your team, if you’re planning on dropping Wolverine and just want someone to sure up the team and have an effective shell if/when Iron Fist dies, pick Doom. You can tailor the assist you use to matchup and the Doom/Virgil pairing has been proving over and over that they’re the two best characters to put behind absolutely everyone else. Personally, I think it’d be a bit more fun to get creative with it. Iron Fist’s high/low rekka mixup can actually be really effective, but you need a lockdown assist to really force the issue. Also, a horizontal assist works really well for him, he can confirm a hit from just about anywhere and bonus points if the assist keeps the opponent standing on hit. Experiment with a bunch of characters and pick one you also really like to use. I would advise against picking a character just for an assist because that’s really no fun.
Hey guys quick question. I like A LOT of characters and I want to use a unique team with some cool synergy.
My faves are:
Trish
Nemesis
Chun
Skrull
Iron fist
Ryu
Doom
Iron man
Storm
Haggar
I’d say my play style is pretty rounded. I’m sure these aren’t going to be “optimal” teams, but that’s okay.
Well lol these teams will be very short on optimal as you already know but here’s some people you can play with. Iron Fist/Haggar, Trish/Iron Fist, Iron Fist/Ryu. For Iron Fist/Haggar, you have a very good defensive assist that also serves as a soft knockdown for hit confirming if you’re quick enough. Also if you get a clean hit into crumple on the ground, you could always tag in Haggar for huge damage. Play around with it however you can. Iron Fist/Haggar/Iron Man?!
You guys might like the team of Iron Fist (Rising Fang)/Frank (Shopping Cart)/Dante (Jam Session). Shopping cart is going to be the primary assist to get in and jam session is gonna be used for characters that like being in the air like zero, morrigan, etc. Any hit with or without shopping cart will lead to a level 4 Frank by scoring a crumple and raw tagging him in. Both assists can be used to extend combos and by using proper combos u can have great DHC options. Once leveled up Frank will then have his usual powerful tools on top of 2 great assists for mixups, resets, combos, getting in, etc. The main drawback of this team is that it can still be hard to land a hit in certain matchups and if Iron Fist dies early then you’re stuck with level 1 Frank.
Hey I’ve always wanted to find a way to practically use Arthur’s powered up daggers assist–and Iron Fist/Spencer/Arthur allows me to do that. It’s just a fun side team I’m interested in. Any tips? Not trying to consistently beat Zeromaycry teams or anything.
I play Doom/Arthur/Iron-Fist. Just play as lame as possible and build enough meter to super jump and DHC to gold armor, then tag to Iron-Fist.
Iron Fist/Storm/Iron Man, imagine the team hyper combo for that!
Not sure what assists to use though. Maybe Iron Man repulsar to control the air a lil bit.
Hey guys, out of curiosity what do you guys think of this team spiderman (web ball)/ iron fist (rising fang)/Akuma (tatsu)? Any synergy what so ever?
Tatsu is of course a great assist but I don’t think you can extend Spiderman’s combos with it. Rising Fang however, you can use for both neutral and for combo extensions in the corner to get extra web swings and such. Of course the damage won’t be too great and you’ll have to whittle down your opponents life with annoying web balls into zip cancels, even if you’re about to DHC because Iron Fist won’t be in red chi at the time.
As for Iron Fist himself, he doesn’t quite benefit too much from web ball (or even any of Spiderman’s assist really). You won’t get any extensions off of Tatsu nor web ball so you can only use them in the neutral game to apply pressure. The good thing is Spiderman and Iron Fist DHC’s will actually work together to hit for full damage. Tatsu is one of Iron Fist’s best assist (if not the best IMO) so you’ll be good to go. You’ll lack a bit in damage compartment but overall if you can play patiently I think this team will prove to be very annoying and solid.
Do you guys think Felicia and Iron Fist have any synergy?
I will have to say that Felicia and Iron Fist have little synergy together. I’ve seen Justin Wong play it once and it was alright I guess. Felicia can use Rising Fang as a neutral assist and combo extension for alittle more damage. I have to say though that I think Felicia would benefit more from a projectile assist rather than Rising Fang. As for Iron Fist on point, there’s very little that Felicia can do for him. You can use somewhat use her assist to extend his combos but it’s a bit difficult. You could also try to do unblockables with her assist but that’s not that solid anyways. Felicia DHC into Iron fist is good but Iron Fist most likely won’t be in red chi so you don’t get full damage. Iron Fist DHC into Felicia is probably not that good as well. Perhaps if you touch someone with Iron Fist crumple into raw tag Felicia, you might be able to set up some meaty damage maybe. But yeah that’s about all I can think for these two.
Thanks for the info, i’m going to try to find something good for these two.
I’m also messing around with firebrand as well, could iron fist and firebrand work well together? The characters that I’m working on is spidey,Akuma,firebrand, iron fist ,ghost rider,and Arthur
It’s funny because I just found out that these two have a 0 frame post flash THC. Only works when they’re right in front of Iron Fist though… So not that useful haha.
Firebrand can work with any awesome assist, such as Rising Fang. But I think for Firebrand to be super effective he needs a really good lockdown assist (ie. Cold Star, Dark Hole, Tenderizer, etc). Other than that, you lose a Bon Voyage extension because it takes away the wall bounce, the DHC will be pretty decent in terms of damage, and you get a safe DHC from Iron Fist to Firebrand. Firebrand is the better point character so I would put him up first. I actually don’t even know if Firebrand can extend Iron Fist’s combos and honestly I think his assists are too slow for that. Besides that I honestly don’t think that they have much synergy together. On the bright side, I see you are working with Akuma and I think he is the best assist that Iron Fist can have.
These Iron Fist forums have been quite dead and it’s a shame to see it go to waste like that. Hopefully people still have things to ask or share about the character. So after playing him for a long time I have come to a conclusion that his 4 best assists (at least IMO) are Akuma Tatsu, Frank Shopping Cart, Task H Arrows, and Hawkeye Greyhound arrows.
Iron Fists benefits from Tatsu and Shopping much like what any rushdown character would such as Wolverine/Spencer/etc. In fact Iron Fist is kinda like a poor man’s Wolvy. Both arrows assists are similar so they have the same purpose. One of Iron Fist’s biggest weakness is that he loses to people who are just crouching pressing buttons. Surprised? He loses to characters that have superior normals such as Wolverine crouching and mashing Light. Yes he loses to people who are in the air but more importantly people who want to stay on the ground can beat him, and that is a major flaw of Iron Fist. All 4 of these assist can hit crouching people which means Iron Fist’s approach is now much more safe and secure. All of them are fast, the first two being the fastest because they are forward moving attacks which Iron Fist loves moving forward. And the last two are very quick projectile assists that don’t have too many hits to scale Iron Fist’s combos too hard because he has such low minimum scaling. Only Frank has alot of hits to his assist but because it’s so fast and effective, it kinda bypassed the other assists. The keypoint here is that all of these assists are fast, they hit crouching people, and they don’t scale very hard.
Some honorable mentions are Ironman Beam and Strange bolts, etc. Iron Fist doesn’t benefit much from lockdown assists because his mixups are kinda awful. I know it’s been mentioned that some think Bolts is the best assist for Iron Fist but I have to disagree because he cannot make people stand for any reason, his jumpins are really slow, and he doesn’t have an effective way to keep Strange safe. I know because I’ve played the shell for almost a year. If you guys have any thoughts on this and/or feedback please go ahead.
Yeah, after playing Iron Fist for some time i realized he is a very limited Wolverine. I think Iron Fist and Felicia resemble each other by the fact that both are worse versions of Wolverine. I think Iron Fist is a character that needs assists to work, without assists he must rely on opponents mistakes. I also think that Iron Fist is a character that should stay in the ground most of the time because his air mobility is awful. That’s why he need assists support so he can move in the ground.
An assist i like to use with IF is Doom’s Missles, aside from being one of the best assists in the game IF works well with these because they give him a safe approach. The only problem is to protect Doom. An other assist i like and makes the opponent stay in the ground is Sentinel’s Drones, but not as good as Missles and combos extensions aren’t very pratical but i love to do a combo with Sentinel and Rising Fang.
I liked the IF+Frank West synergy. Properly leveled up Frank with Rising Fang is an excelent combination from neutral game to mixups and i see some good combo extensions with these two. Maybe i will try using a team with them.
About the arrows, IF can use both well to approach the opponent so a team like: Iron Fist/Hawkeye or Taskmaster/Lockdown assist character. Looks good for IF support. As Iron Fist use Lockdown assists more for protection than pressure, maybe a low hitting assist may help IF in some occasions for unblockables but he have to to make the opponent to block which is difficult.
I was a little vague but that’s what i got in my mind while i read the previous post.
Also i thought in a pretty obvious way that you can try an unblockable with Iron Fist and Felicia Rolling Slide: After a hard knockdown with Iron Fist you can call Felicia and use a jump normal with Iron Fist making maybe an ambigous crossup with IF weird jumping arc to hit the unblockable , i can think in ways the opponent can escape, but i just wanted to put here so anyone consider it. And maybe you can use other low hitting assists but i still didn’t tested it.
I think Arthur’s Daggers are one of the best assists in the game, and may work great with Iron Fist, Arthur and IF make a good team in my opinion so i guess you should give more attention to these two, as the others i can’t think in a good synergy between IF and the others characters besides Akuma already mentioned.