If you’re playing Control Warrior, which you are with this card, you should know how to do that to begin with.
I’m sure future control warrior will build their decks around Varian whenever he’s considered, probably not auto include. Most importantly you always have control over the state in which you put Varian into play.
Like say if you don’t want to play Varian until you get Alex, because that’ll be your most reliable win condition, then you wait until then. Though for all you know she could be in the bottom of your deck. If you’re in need of a potentially game swinging option at turn 10, Varian could provide that even if he draws no minions. You’re likely reloading your hand with more removal options or stuff like shield block.
If you’re using Varian to pray that you get something crazy like 2x sludge belcher, you probably didn’t have much options to begin with.
Battlecry smattlecry, you are putting minions you draw for ZERO cost. So Alexstrazza? Yeah you missed her battlecry, but with Varian, you’ve put down a 7/7 and an 8/8, as well as drew 2 other cards (which may have also been played for zero cost if they are minions) all for 10 mana. How is the opponent going to deal with that? They aren’t most of the time, instead they are likely dead.
That the minions are drawn and played for zero cost, more than makes up for loss of battlecry. So worst case, is still superb value. He can and probably often will singlehandedly win games. I’m sure people will modify decks as well to build around him, cause he is such a powerhouse.
Eh if the worst case scenario is either drawing 3 cards or gaining board for free at the cost of battlecry effects I’d say it’s still very much worth playing.
In some matchups Varian seems to be great, in others… well.
Against handlock I really don’t want to dump my guys at once. Neither against paladin. Against Druid? Ye, why not.
Might be good against some, but can easily backfire against others with good board clears.
Don’t think I’ll include him in my classic deck.
yeah losing 4 minions to a board wipe who wasted their battlecries in a control mirror then being farther behind in the fatigure war can pretty much be GG, especially as you have to invest 10 mana into the situation.
if you flipped say alex, a shieldmaiden, and nefarian or something then got hit by lightbomb or something you probably just lost straight up.
One of the benefits of ancient of lore is that druids are cheating on mana causing it to come out early, and they can have flexible turns later casting it then still being able to play cards after. Lore > die to savage roar drawn by lore has happened to me more than a few times.
Edit:
How Thaurrisan functionally works in patron warrior.
Would have been simpler for everyone if it just said “I win”.
There’s only a few ways to clear a board of full minions, and usually by late game most those aoe/board clears have been used. Varian will be played very late game, and you get to choose when to play it as owatt said. It doesn’t need to be played asap. Then the opponent will have to have saved his consecrate+equality, or shadowflame+giant or lightbomb or whatever, for that long. Yeah it may happen, but much more often it is likely to be gg on your end, not his/her. Cause if they don’t have that mass removal and you draw even one other big minion, it’s over. Some classes don’t have an answer at all.
On top of that, late game many times resorts to top decking, well card draw is massively valuable at that point. Also again, people may build different decks around Varian. It doesn’t have to be the exact control warrior deck atm, with Varian inserted. Likely there will be adjustments.
Kinda depressing that this is the best Rogue card revealed so far.
Whaat
Oh someone made a thread on reddit already, I’ll stop updating. https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/3gzxkr/all_of_todays_new_cards/
wtf Mistcaller… wtf?!
(is wtf’ing posts good or bad?)
But I really like the Brode/Frodan combo.
Man, look at that new card called Acolyte of Pain! All the draw value!
Acolyte of Pain is a real game changer. The meta will never be the same once this expansion comes out.
Bear trap, whenever your hero is attacked summon a 3/3 bear with Taunt…
More dragons, definitely a good thing. Also like they are trying to push pirates as well. Sparring partner, another anti aggro card, and very strong. Mistcaller…handshaman? Wait a minute…all minions in hand and deck!!! That is insane, maybe 20 +1/+1!!!
Nice…have to wait so you can combo hero power, no way that stays on the board.
Constellar Pleiades!!! …wait, wrong game.
Still, PRIEST!!!
Finally another druid card that has beast synergy
While sometimes I love to play this game, especially on mobile as blizzard have made it work really well on mobile, I just cannot get on with it.
Some days it will make me so salty, I know it’s skill to some extent but loosing to constant RNG just annoys me too much. I think I have the worst luck. I’m sure other people feel this way but if there was a test to measure your luck percentage for sure mine would be 0.0001%
The only thing I can stand playing now is the Tavern brawl because that basically is just complete pot luck 3/4 of the time so loosing or winning isn’t really anything to shout about.