HBO's True Detective

General Discussion
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#TrueDetectiveAdjectives Vinous

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#TrueDetectiveAdjectives: Ray is acrimonious

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#TrueDetectiveAdjectives Frank is deleterious

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I’m reaching REAL DEEP into my lexicon for this shit.

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That doesn’t really matter. @Raz0r did bumps of rice until dawn and bragged about getting into barfights. Look at how he turned out…

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Quadruple-posting?

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Point taken.

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Vaughn can’t act for shit, that scene when he returns home and his wife ask if he wants to talk, he just looks up at her and down to his drink pulling faces. That was the most awkward 30seconds of TV I have experienced in a long time. His fight was a joke too.

I was waiting for the John Carter dude to just go full Smithers in the club.

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-59012-Smithers-cornered-by-strippers-wgS7.gif

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My intelligence is above-average but nothing I can use to make money. Still, sometimes a bar fight is relaxing.

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  1. So we learn Taylor Kitsch’s character is gay, so that is why he needs the pill to do it with his girlfriend. He is very distressed by it, and tries not to think about it.

  2. The vince vaughn fight was kind of lame, though irl he does have a major reach advantage and probably just as much muscle mass (other dude was mostly fat).

  3. Season 1 seems far superior, however season 2 isn’t as bad as some make it to be. There is some lame stuff, and low points, however there are enough strengths to the show to keep it interesting. Everything seems a bit unfocused though, scatterbrained.

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Vince Vaughn using “apoplectic” wasn’t that much of a surprise because as a businessman/criminal he has to put on some faux-sophistication to seem legit when dealing with suits. Fake it 'til you make it.

Ray on the other hand…

Actually it’s funny how writers will make even hoodlums and country bumpkins use perfect grammar, with zero clipped speech or run-on sentences. Maybe they hope that an actor’s fake accent and improvisations will mask the stiff dialogue. Same with everyday joes having an endless supply of wit that would make Hitchens tip his glass in approval. (R.I.P.) At least it’s entertaining.

Back to Vince Vaughn. I rewatched the scene with him reliving his childhood trauma and I’m suspicious that he might’ve ended up in a dissociative state as a boy to cope with abandonment, and as an adult he’s been unwittingly sabotaging himself in various ways. The scene was supposed to trick us into sympathizing with Vince, while ignoring the underlying pathology created by such a traumatic event.

So while he does have real enemies ready to steamroll what’s left of him, these killings might be his own doing.

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Dude. Nic writes every episode by himself. He is also from the Bayou. He had an awesome grasp of the dialect imo. We also share birthdays. But hey, Im a sucker for witty banter. Guess thats why I liked S1/S2 of Suits and Askewniverse movies.

I also had to do a double take. Almost thought that set director was Fukunaga. Definitely was trying to be.

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How many businessmen do you know? I’ve known and still know a few, from thousandaires to multi-millionaires. None speak this way. Intellectuals speak with big words, so do the pretentious. Everyone else uses regular words. Frank doesn’t seem dumb so I’m surprised he would do such a stupid thing to try and blend it when it would only make him stick out more.

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I wasn’t implying anything regarding this ep, if anything this season hasn’t really had particularly deep or witty dialogue. Just some mild situational humor. I was just making an overall observation regarding tv shows in general. As for expectations in dialogue, every show has to maintain their own distinct reality for the viewer to accept. Suits is more of an '80s revival dramedy with a contemporary twist. Fast-talking witticisms and banter is to be expected. It’s basically every yuppie’s wet dream, but an entertaining show nonetheless.

Hm… didn’t do enough research to know True Detective has only one writer though, good to know.

Actually, I’ve met with and (sometimes sadly) worked for quite a few millionaires. I lived Boca and it came with the territory. Their verbosity depends on their occupation and background, but once you start talking about their professional interests they tend to use more formal, rigid speech.

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I don’t think ‘apoplectic’ is nearly as obscure as anyone here is treating it. Clearly most of the audience seems to have understood it, and I think it was implicit that both characters recognized that it was a reach outside of their everyday vernacular, which is why it bore repeating.

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raises hand
Hey, dumb people like this show too.

You’re probably right about the reason V^2 repeated it.

So wassup with those diamonds in Caspre’s lock box?

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Fuck Velcoro living and being able to walk around and shit. That was the biggest fucking copout! If they wanted that they should have cut away instead of showing him get blasted with that HUGE SHOTGUN at point blank. It could have been sand in the chamber and he would have been way more hurt than he appeared to be. I mean I know Rust should have prob died at the end of TD1 too but this was way more offensive imo.

As others have said the dialogue is really bad in some parts. “Never do anything out of hunger, not even eating.” might sound like something a cool tough guy would say at first but is just fucking idiotic. I also feel like they really brought too much baggage to too many characters all for the sake of making them seem more “real” but completely missed the mark. Still holding out hope that the main case ends up being interesting enough to not consider this a big failure.

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Man this officially makes every thread I sub to with an update this morning like

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I don’t think Vince Vaughn used the word because he understood what it means. It looked like he used it to mock Velcoro. He couldn’t even pronounce it, what makes you think he understood it even implicitly?

Anyway, I highly doubt most people understood what the word meant although I have no way of gauging it. In the age of Google where you can literally get a MW definition of a word in 3 seconds, it’s hard to judge whether or not most of the audience understood it. I’m sure the majority of watchers here didn’t and google’d it as soon as he had said it.

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http://i.imgur.com/JJVnLP5.png

No hard numbers, I don’t think google releases that info, but it got pretty popular.