Guilty Gear XX Accent Core PLUS R: New update for GGXX! coming to Arcade, PSN, XBLA and now Vita!

keo-bas · November 10, 2012, 11:34pm

i don’t know what upset me more. the fact I know people who choose to not play xbox due to their dendetta agaisnt Microsoft or the fact they try to convived me that psc2 GGAC is identical to ps2 version…WTF?!

ThatJollyOlBastid · November 10, 2012, 11:37pm

I though they made it clear that R will be free

stickystaines · November 11, 2012, 4:02am

i’d hate to quote myself here but…
^pretty much this.

everyone and i mean everyone needs to switch to as fast of an internet speed as possible.
if everyone did that, netcode wouldn’t be an issue and there’d be no lag.
for anyone.
ever.
stop being cheap lazy bastards and upgrade already.

when i was using verizon as my provider for phone+net…i was paying 40 for net, and get 3 measly mbps DL. now i switched from outdated copper wire bullshit to optimum online fiber optic cable and getting 50mbps for 15 bucks more.
also, if possible the best net service for net online gaming is one where the DL and the UL speed are the same numbers.
so having 35mbps DL with 25mbps UL > 50mbps with 5mbps UL

if every FG gamer switched to something like 35mbps DL 25mbps UL…there’d be no lag.
hell, we could play people on the other side of the world any time we wanted to.
we’d never haveta kick anyone from a session due to connection.
we’d all get better gamer games in.

The amount of data you upload or download doesn’t matter much when you are streaming KB’s at a time at best. It’s the speed at which the data passes through the network which is important, the route the data has to take to get to the destination and whether a connection is stable (not dropping packets often etc).

And - at least in the foreseeable future - we are restricted to the speed of light.

E: Didn’t see the next page, you dont need me telling you the same thing twice.

Jotamide · November 11, 2012, 8:13am

Hahahaha coming from ArcSys I wouldn’t be surprised.

Joe_Zombie · November 11, 2012, 9:09am

I expected +R to cost money anyway. Wouldn’t be a surprise to me.

When was this said?

Also, some dude on Dustloop said not to expect GG this Tuesday on PSN. He mentioned TTT2 will be seeing a digital release however. The Drop hasn’t given an update yet so I’m not sure about the credibility of that statement.

Tomo009 · November 11, 2012, 7:17pm

I would seriously be expecting +R to cost money. It would be slightly insane for it to not, really.

PozerWolf · November 11, 2012, 8:40pm

I feel like if they charge for +R, it would be a bad move but who knows.
It’s possible they might set it out for free like they did with BlazBlue CS2. I dunno, hopefully we’ll find out soon.

ThatJollyOlBastid · November 11, 2012, 8:44pm

Azure · November 11, 2012, 8:49pm

Still not buying another RRoD Box.

Arcsys can pull a Reload again, and I still will not budge.

This fucking bullshit is tired and worn out, and you’d like to think that it wouldn’t still be happening at the end of a generation, like this.

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Nephinel · November 11, 2012, 10:11pm

If I can get a good connection with someone from fucking Mexico or even France, I should be able to get an** excellent** connection with someone in my region.

what the fuck is with this netcode

Effenhoog · November 11, 2012, 10:18pm

That specific issue is probably not the netcode, I frequently have better connections in a variety of games with people who live far away from me and shit connections with a couple of players who live in my city

PozerWolf · November 11, 2012, 11:13pm

Damn, Woody was right.

Axl_m4ster · November 12, 2012, 4:12am

Sorry, but you’re not entirely correct there.

And I’ll modify a post I made earlier this month regarding the subject.

If someone’s already on cable or dsl, I highly doubt it getting a speed boost will show any improvement.

Why? Ping. Ping is the time it takes for a connection to be made between two points, in this case from you to your opponent. Most people attribute gameplay quality to speed. This is incorrect. The best indicator of gameplay quality will be your ping rate to the server or player, where the lower the number, the better. Several factors affect ping.

Skip this section if you don’t want an explanation of how all this works:

[spoiler=]

For starters, you have wireless connections vs wired ones. Wireless connections have inherent signal loss. Signal loss affects ping rates. Even wireless connections with a stable ping still suck, because (again) it has inherent signal loss. Think of it like a water spray bottle, with the water being the data you’re dealing with. Even a straight stream has stray water being sprayed around. Same with a wireless connection, except that water bottle is set to mist with the target generally wafting it towards it. It’s not perfect. The easy solution is to use a wired connection, but there are still some people too ignorant of what makes a good connection to realize this (or some physically unable to use wired, like some I know of in here).

So let’s say both players are using wired. Well, you still have to make sure your routers are set up correctly. A router routes traffic to devices. Think of a traffic cop on a eight-lane four-way stop. He’s got to make sure that each car gets to the proper lane without any kind of direction, and cars kind of drive around aimlessly until they realize where they’re headed. Setting up port forwarding lets that cop say “Hey, you go to this lane” so the cars get to where they should be faster and no cars get lost. Lost cars equal (you guessed it) signal loss, and signal loss means a higher ping.

Okay, so you’ve got your router set up and you’re using wired, but you’re still not good to go, and unfortunately that’s about all you can control at that point. The information you’re getting and receiving still has to travel several miles, possibly hundreds or thousands of miles, traveling through relay stations, ISP hubs, and all sorts of other complicated stuff before it gets to where it needs to go… and each section of this has to be working immaculately. We’re talking miles of cable that must be undamaged, equipment that must be properly spaced (because signals are electricity, and that degrades over a set distance unless it’s refreshed by passing through a relay), and all kinds of other crap that has to be just right so it can reach your ISP and go to wherever it needs to go where, finally making a connection to the server or your opponent. Once that connection is made, then you start transferring information.

Now what does all this mean to you? It means that even if your internet speed is fast, it’s still going to have to jump through those hoops before it can even get or receive what it needs. It doesn’t mean squat if you have a fast car but you’re stuck at red lights all the time, and the ping rate indicates how long it has to wait at the stop light before you can get to transferring the information at those higher speeds.[/spoiler]

Don’t get me wrong… it WILL have some effect on your matches. You’ll probably find matches with better ping rates, but connecting to a person with a crappy ping is going to be just the same as it was, regardless of your speed. Look at it this way: I used to play on a 10up, 1.5 down connection that had lag-free matches with a good ping (usually 60 or below).

my ping is a consistent 15 bruv

Tomo009 · November 12, 2012, 6:29am

Does this guy work for Arcsys?

Hecatom · November 12, 2012, 9:08am

You are confusing ASW with Capcom

Chunstoppable · November 12, 2012, 9:12am

It isn’t listed in this week’s drop again, but once again, there’s a chance that it may still show up on the PS Store this week.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/11/11/the-drop-week-of-november-12th-2012-new-releases/

therook · November 12, 2012, 10:39am

They both charge silly prices for DLC…

Jotamide · November 12, 2012, 12:38pm

I wouldn’t take what’s said on NeoGAF as facts.

Ika_Zuchi_No_Kami · November 12, 2012, 12:51pm

Sigh, my xbox pick a fucked up time to RRoD. waiting on GG is depressing like… gamely not sending me the shit I had in my que before all them other bitch ass niggas.:bluu:

Hecatom · November 12, 2012, 2:24pm

$7 is fair enough for a character, specially if you receive the balance changes for free
Or are you one of those fools that think that DLC should be free?