Coincidence?
The members of the team in charge of balance have been exposed. They’re still salty because of Guile players robbing them of their lunch money back in middle school.
So Sonic Hurricane does the same amount of damage as Chun’s U2, an Ultra that’s easy-as-fuck to combo and doesn’t even require a charge? Wow.
Today in the AE Changes Blog, we discuss just how much we screwed you guys over. [ This ] much.
Next we’ll talk about how we didn’t screw anyone else over.
I never thought about it that way. /depression
Also your sig is pretty hilarious haha
I wrote this in the front page of SRK.com, but I’ll post it here as well.
*Many will debate that it is Abel which may be true. I’ll have to wait and see the blog explanation on Abel’s nerfs. As of now, Guile has the biggest nerfs out of all the characters in AE.
So let me get this straight…Guile gets a 420 to 300 decrease on U2 while El Fuerte’s U2 drops from 500 to 450…
Not only that…Guile’s U2 start up itime s increased from 8 to 10…while El Fuerte’s U2 is only from 3 to 4…
I understand they are two completely different players…but Guile is seriously getting raped here. Does Capcom have any idea how hard it is to pull of U1 on players? I’m not talking about people who just picked up SSFIV. I’m talking about veterans who knows their stuff. How does Capcom expect Guile users to play him competitively?
Not only do you make FADC FK U2 useless, making the game go faster, and nerfing his FKs, Capcom has done nothing to help Guile. I don’t want to hear how great the upside down kick buff is. That’s bullshit because opponents can grab you from that. I get the sonic boom meter and the backfist…but with actual proof of the U2 nerf, this is just beyond repair.
I may have to concede to using someone else…no idea who at this point. *
As I read more, I now found out that even his NORMALS are getting a nerf. This is just a travesty. I don’t want to hear this crap that Guile is balanced. It’s not even CLOSE. Balance went out the window when they started adding nerf normals (backfist excluded…that had to be nerfed), FKs, Air grabs and U2.
Capcom Hates Guile and I blame them for doing a horrible fix on the Chocolate SFIV. AE is what Chocolate should have been for Guile. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
Complaining about Guile is so last month. sarcasm
My feelings about this are summed up in the first 8 seconds of [media=youtube]Vkt2giWJ07M[/media]
Sigh…a pro like you can’t understand how we scrubs feel lol.
Forgot to mention that I found a little trick. When you get a knockdown and do Knee Bazooka it goes over the opponent as they are getting up and you end up on the other side of the opponent. Don’t know if it works on all characters but it works. Heck I don’t even know which character I was doing it on but I’ll do some more testing with it to see if it’s viable or not.
that nerf on sonic hurricane damage… =/
even though as a Bison main Guile is a mortal enemy, that was still really uncalled for. It’s a charge move, has less set ups and now doesn’t it do less than Chun’s u2? Really ridiculous.
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Was it on Viper, Ibuki, Makoto, or Guy?
I remember testing the corpse hop bazooka knee setup a little while ago. And it worked on all the female characters in SS4, except for Rose…I think. I didn’t test any of the male characters tho. So maybe it’s worth looking into testing everyone. The best option I could think up after the knee was to go for a meaty upside-down kick. I never really explored it cuz of wake up dp, but maybe it’s worth it to think up more strategies with it.
Kinda funny that a couple days ago out of nowhere I was thinking to myself: Makoto has that neat corpse-hop dash, I wonder what it would be like if Guile could do that. And lo, I come here and find out he can.
I wonder what possible uses might be though. Could be a nice way to swap places when you’re locked in the corner or just to give them a little surprise factor to screw up their wake up. If this works on any charge characters (ala Guile’s super), it could screw that up to…
Jesus chirst. I’m not surprised, but actually seeing it in writing makes me cringe.
GUILE
-A number of damage changes introduced
-Flash Kick is now 100/120/130 for LK/MK/HK (down from 130/140/160)
-Sonic Hurricane does 300 damage (down from 420), start-up is 10 frames (slower from 1+7)
- Flying Mare (neutral/forward air throw) and Flying Buster Drop (back air throw) are now 4F, so be aware they’re slightly different from Super
That’s 300 damage wwith a full ultra meter kids. Meaning it may be only 200 half-full. Pathetic! I know everyone has said it a million times… nerf the damage, or the startup, not both… but they didn’t nerf both attributes, they friggin NUKED them. Did you see fuerte’s U2 nerf on that page? It now does 450 damage instead of 500. He loses 50 damage on a powerful ultra, we lose 120 on a not-so-powerful ultra. That has to be the single biggest nerf made in AE for any character, ever.
/Rant.
I feel your pain dude. I seriously do.
Just read the Mago, Daigo, Tokido Versus City translation :
Versus City Blog Archive The Three Gods Rap ? Part 2 .
“Daigo: The changes to the frame data on a blocked Sonic Boom and nerfing its charge time a little bit was fatal. It?s a lot easier to just walk forward and block all of his projectiles to get closer. So you really need to use his backfist now.”
What were the changes to frame data on a blocked boom? Also, what was the nerf on charge time? Sorry if it’s posted somewhere else, I just hadn’t read anything about those before.
I spent an hour yesterday at CTF and felt like I wasn’t trading as much with GHK and generally it seemed better. Did anyone notice a change on the hitbox?
It’s either a mistranslation or daigo’s smoking some stuff. Charge time hasn’t changed.
Did anyone notice any differences/changes on hit/blockstun?
I’m loving these nerfs… ahhhh the days of guile is finally over. “YES BEEN WAITING FOR THIS MOMENT EVER SINCE GUILE MAINS HIT SSF4”. Yep my time to shine now guile. =d but yo I didn’t know ultra got raped by that much. Hmm, i guess guile deserves it. “Cya guys in AE”, peace!
Daigo is probably smoking some stuff, because he clearly said that the charge time has been nerfed 