Guide for Street Fighter V - Free Mobile app for iOS and Android - MOVE PUNISHER + FRAME DATA ADDED!

purbeast · March 3, 2016, 9:29pm

Are you referring to the custom combos or the overall layout? I doubt the overall layout will be made customizable. I have been contemplating an “all moves” section right at the top though, that would literally be all the moves in 1 list, since I’ve had a few people ask me about it, and it would be simple to implement.

General_Awesomo:

I like the clean look the frame data section has. It’s clean and you just click on the specific move you want to see frame data for. However, for Vega, you are missing frame data.

Most importantly, you are missing frame data for his “hand” normals (standing, crouching, and jumping). Although for his jumping normals, the Prima guide states that, apart from the obvious hitbox decreases, that j.LP and j.MP become a frame faster in hand mode. Add (claw) and (hand) at the end of the respective moves to differentiate between the two modes/stances.

Also, Flying Barcelona Attack gets changed with his stances as well. In hand, FBA leaves the opponent in hitstun instead of a knockdown. The Prima guide says FBA (hand) is +7~8 on hit and +2~3 on block.

I see you have the move written as “flying barcelona attack(claw).” Well, because you’ll probably be using (claw) as the stance modifier, you can’t use (claw) to denote the attack. Maybe use (strike) instead? flying barcelona attack (strike) (claw/hand)?

You’re missing frame data for Vega’s CA, Bloody Rain.

And now, for an overall addition to the frame data section. Add another row to include additional information like when and how many airborne and invincibility (total, strike, throw, projectile) frames there are.

Great job!

Thanks again for the great feedback. I realize there is some data currently missing. As I mentioned in the update, I’m using the community driven frame data that is on the public google doc that I believe gilley started. Once those are updated I plan to go in and update the information again.

This is the frame data I used for the app - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1976rt8B91PqVCeYJAmcnW1uwVJ0H03QJtV-dJC5ohL8/htmlview?sle=true#

Also, I would not put anything the prima guide says as fact, because I have had all the prima guides from SF4 to KI, and they have all been error ridden. Just something to keep in mind.

The iOS frame data update is out for review right now so it should be released within 24 hours I’m hoping.

I’m currently on vacation but on my flight here I worked on the move punisher tool for iOS, and on my flight home (Saturday) I am planning to get it done for Android, and have it released on both by the end of the weekend. This tool will definitely come in handy for leaning matchups and what you can and can’t punish and with what moves you can punish.

SepticSceptic · March 4, 2016, 12:51am

Pretty sure he means reordering the Custom Combo list because having them listed in the order they are created is not ideal. Would be great if this could be implemented.

purbeast · March 4, 2016, 3:42am

Yeah that is doable for sure since that list isn’t global, it’s an individual basis.

Also, the iOS frame data update is now live.

General_Awesomo · March 5, 2016, 5:00am

purbeast:

Darthsebious:

Good work on the app so far mate. Great for having notes/combos on hand before a match. If I could make a suggestion, any chance you could allow the user to customise the lists and reorder them so that I can move the sections around.

Are you referring to the custom combos or the overall layout? I doubt the overall layout will be made customizable. I have been contemplating an “all moves” section right at the top though, that would literally be all the moves in 1 list, since I’ve had a few people ask me about it, and it would be simple to implement.

General_Awesomo:

I like the clean look the frame data section has. It’s clean and you just click on the specific move you want to see frame data for. However, for Vega, you are missing frame data.

Most importantly, you are missing frame data for his “hand” normals (standing, crouching, and jumping). Although for his jumping normals, the Prima guide states that, apart from the obvious hitbox decreases, that j.LP and j.MP become a frame faster in hand mode. Add (claw) and (hand) at the end of the respective moves to differentiate between the two modes/stances.

Also, Flying Barcelona Attack gets changed with his stances as well. In hand, FBA leaves the opponent in hitstun instead of a knockdown. The Prima guide says FBA (hand) is +7~8 on hit and +2~3 on block.

I see you have the move written as “flying barcelona attack(claw).” Well, because you’ll probably be using (claw) as the stance modifier, you can’t use (claw) to denote the attack. Maybe use (strike) instead? flying barcelona attack (strike) (claw/hand)?

You’re missing frame data for Vega’s CA, Bloody Rain.

And now, for an overall addition to the frame data section. Add another row to include additional information like when and how many airborne and invincibility (total, strike, throw, projectile) frames there are.

Great job!

Thanks again for the great feedback. I realize there is some data currently missing. As I mentioned in the update, I’m using the community driven frame data that is on the public google doc that I believe gilley started. Once those are updated I plan to go in and update the information again.

This is the frame data I used for the app - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1976rt8B91PqVCeYJAmcnW1uwVJ0H03QJtV-dJC5ohL8/htmlview?sle=true#

Also, I would not put anything the prima guide says as fact, because I have had all the prima guides from SF4 to KI, and they have all been error ridden. Just something to keep in mind.

The iOS frame data update is out for review right now so it should be released within 24 hours I’m hoping.

I’m currently on vacation but on my flight here I worked on the move punisher tool for iOS, and on my flight home (Saturday) I am planning to get it done for Android, and have it released on both by the end of the weekend. This tool will definitely come in handy for leaning matchups and what you can and can’t punish and with what moves you can punish.

Ah, I see. Yeah, the Prima guide might not always be right. It’s kind of hard to test the startup of the j.LPs and j.MPs. However, you were right about the frame advantage on the normal Flying Barcelona Attack (strike) (hand). In fact, the frame advantage on hit for the normal FBA (strike) (hand) can be more than +7~8, as I can link Vega’s c.HK (9f startup) after a deep hit.

purbeast · March 6, 2016, 9:27pm

Finished up the move punisher tool. It’s a tool to quickly tell you what moves your character can punish for your opponent, and how many frames you have to punish them.

Here’s a quick video of how it works on the iOS version:

The Android version has been uploaded so expect the update shortly, and the iOS one has been submitted so probably a week or so for it to be available.

purbeast · March 9, 2016, 6:31am

Move Punisher is now available on iOS!

That was one of the quickest turn arounds ever for iOS.

Nrae · March 25, 2016, 2:05am

Hello, thank you for your great work.
I wanted to know if you will put the command of each moves after their name in Move Punisher, sometimes when i look to something i only see the name and im not sure what command it is.
I know i can go to each charaters to see the command but it can be easier if they’re also in Move Punisher.
Thats not urgent but if you have time and if you want that would be nice.
Thanks.

Rakkesay · January 3, 2018, 1:47pm

Well , I want you to keep on talking, as i know the Apple’s products and software are too closed and integrated.If you’re operating between iPhone and Android, unfortunately, you’re doomed to fail