Totally coincidentally Christianity is also the mainstream ‘default’ religion of just about everywhere people taking part in this discussion are from, which makes it nice and rebellionworthy. Islam get picked out because of the whole 9/11-terrorism thing. People never really go after Judaism though, I presume its because they’re afraid of appearing anti-semitic… although really, if the other 2 get the hate they should too, all 3 faiths are very closely related.
I think Judaism gets a free pass for the most part because there is no gospel they must proclaim. For the most part all they are told to do is live by the law and be good. So unlike the other 2, Judaism is all about you in that theres no message they have to proclaim to the world so nobody has an issue with them cuz they stay to themselves.
I want to be an athiest but don’t want to pay the extra luggage fees.
What do I do?
Don’t be a douche about it, does wonders
Maybe you should read more about Napoleon, Kim Jong II, Than Shwe, Joseph Stalin, Mussolini, Mao Zedong, and Jeffery Dahmer…
“If a person doesn’t think that there is a god to be accountable to, then what’s the point of trying to modify your behavior to keep it it within acceptable ranges”… - Jeffery Dahmer.
If atheists like to generalize due to a few bad representatives, then why can’t we (theists) do the same with your side?
Atheists can be so hypocritical, you guys make claims as well, how did this evolve into a christian vs atheist debate again because of the claims Fishjie makes in every religion thread. You guys claim us to be delusional, stupid, etc etc… One atheist starts with a claim, and a christian responds to it. Saying that you don’t need to give any back up to your side is a cop out.
Hmm… Atheists have referenced the events written in the Pentateuch, which is more of an attack to Judaism than Christianity. They do have a message but it’s ancestral than global and it hasn’t shoved religious politics for a long time.
A few…
I’d take you seriously, but this quote is just… oh well
No Atheist has ever done what they do in the name of atheism, while there are plenty of religious people who would even blow themselves up because they were convinced they had God on their side.
The debate with all religions has been over for a really long time.
The only serious debate still worth having is with a deist. All religions in the world are bogus.
And before you bring WLC, and his "Academia"
Why don’t you research the fraud he is…
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I don’t want to get too much into this because if someone can’t appreciate that it isn’t very logical to believe that you will somehow be rewarded with eternal life if you follow the doctrine of a religion full of plagiarism that claims that you need to be “saved”, then there’s nothing you can do with a mind like that.
A mind like that is useless for the frontier of human understanding… therefore, not worth paying attention to.
Good thing that a philosophy of ignorance like religion is simply doomed to eventually die once men lose fear of death
So did anyone come up with any proof yet of said superhuman agency or agencies?
Heres exactly what the hell Im talking about. These are the type of responses that ruin these threads. Because this board is soo…whats the word “anti-theist” what people tend to do in these debates is make claims without any sort of backing they are just assumed to be true. I love these type of debates when they are actually debates…thats why I cam here expecting to see a debate…but as always I’m disappointed because of the bias of the presuppositions or claims of the atheist side are always taken without being tested while the other side doesnt get to have that privilege Lolz I guess Im expecting too much out of the GD forum looolz
“Whoa look at me im throwing cool insults on how your side is stupid in the confines of my worldview”
Seriously those tactics get old and go no where…
Dude…the OP went to watch Wrath of the Titans. A sequel to an insanely bad remake. How are you not going in on that dumbass? He probably even saw it in 3D. SMH.
Stalin did what he did in the name of communism, and one of the fundamental aspects of that belief system is atheism.
I stopped being Christian two years ago but holy shit it’s stuff like this that makes the rest of us look bad.
Theists lack moral and intelectual honesty, as Nitzsche put so well in his Antichrist. They can never achieve it, as once they do, they cease to be theists.
I like how the only real work of art that has ever captured the essence of what Jesus wanted to achieve in the bible has been Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure. I replaced my copy of the bible with the script to that movie.
“Be excellent to each other.”
I mean…how can you possibly go wrong with that? Just be excellent to each other. If we worked with just that sentence the world would be a better place.
Nitzsche has discussed it too in his work about the subject of christianity. In a nutshell, there is Christ, and there is what Paul turned him into, and the several inconsistencies - and blantant lies - in the Christian bible.
Fuck Nitzsche in his mustache. Nothing he wrote comes close to the Wild Stallions.
anyone who has basic reading ability can see the contradictions and scientific errors in the bible. you don’t even need to go to a website. all it takes is intellectual honesty. the reason christians can’t see them is because they presuppose the bible is real, and come up with all sorts of mental gymnastics to justify it. that’s why its pointless to even argue with fundies. who incited david to take a census of israel, satan or god? the fundies come up with some crap answer, and the only people who buy it are other people who have low intelligence.
nope, i already demonstrated that even today, religious nutjobs do stupid shit in the name of their beliefs. i also demonstrated you are a religious hypocrite. you have addressed neither of those things. stop dodging my points :lol: so again, are you gonna suck up to jesus or suck up to srk? if you are the greatest poster on srk, jesus will not be happy. we are a sinful site.
You didn’t get the part I responded to? Communism works because it sets up its leaders as gods. It copied a successful model from religion. Religion gains its power by discouraging intellectual honesty and critical thinking, which leads to atrocities. Communism got its success by copying that.
you misread my argument. your statement only holds true for judaism, christianity, and islam, which worship the same god, and have their own practice. that does not hold true for the other world religions, who worship multiple gods, or don’t even believe in a personal deity (religions like taoism don’t have a concept of god period).
nope i read the bible multiple times as a believer, just like most ex christians. its hard to believe after you fully read the text, no wonder the church didn’t want it translated. religion is a business, and its good for business if the people remain ignorant.
bzzt wrong i already brought up time and time again the stupidity in modern day of religious fundies, and you completely dodged that point again. people still live in the dark ages. you have proven once again the correlation between low intelligence and religious belief.
WRONG. Stalin killed 25 million people during de-collectivization. In the name of a cause that outlaws religion.
Good arguments have came and never been refuted yet. I’m still waiting for an academic support or at least a common example. Life, Universe, the nature of energy and how things begin to work on it’s motion is the evidence (or debate) presented… so until someone here shows at least a COMMON EXAMPLE that all these things can happen with out any intelligent intervention then my 6+ year undefeated streak lives on.
There have been atheists who killed for atheistic reasons. That video isn’t called research because that is just an fan-made video of some atheist kid who just made clip edits all for the sake of redeeming famous atheists from their loss to WLC…Everybody on youtube will have some “debater exposed” vid on both sides.
Fishjiz will respond soon, and he will ignore the other theists in full focus to me. Because he knows the dominant history i’ve had. therefore like my posts.
edit: I told ya.
ethics and morality are established from empathy. that which causes sufferings to others is bad, that which brings happiness is good. humans have evolved to be social animals, and so we favor systems of ethics that encourage people to live in harmony. so that is why i think murder is wrong.
so with that said, you have three desert dogma religions that have racked up a huge kill count, and are still going strong, and you have other religions whose kill count isn’t even close. objectively, the desert dogma religions suck balls.