Well I don’t think ridiculing Maltheists/Dystheists is necessary, I think they make some good points. But aside from that I don’t mind theists as long as they aren’t trying to force their way of life on others. If they’re just practicing it within their group or etc, I’m fine with that.
militant evangelists on the other hand, are a scourge and a menace.
It’s two thousand-freakin-twelve and science has yet to provide a complete answer as to the origins of the universe. As such it is irrational to expect everyone to disbelieve in God.
Everyone would simply not know where the universe came from. This isn’t necessarily bad, but it would be a natural human desire to attempt to answer that question.
Until science provides a complete answer, it will always be perfectly rational to consider the possibility and even believe in a God, because until that time, it is the most convincing answer anybody has.
In summary, fuck your shit, I’ll believe what I want.
Umm…I’m pretty sure I’ve said on more than one occasion that Craig is a fantastic debator. Show me a few of these atheist sites that say he’s never lost a single one on one debate. What you’ve said about his opponents being unable to give stronger aguments is true, but that doesn’t imply that his arguments are correct. I’m saying that the arguments put forth by Craig are some of the best arguments on the theistic side, yet they’ve each got major holes in them that have already been thoroughly exposed in writing by the likes of Morriston, Kagan and Dan Barker just to name a few. So I do concede that he wins his debates but that gets him nowhere close to proving the existence of god. Have you even read anything written by these prominent atheists? Here’s the major difference that I’ve noticed amongst theists and atheists which give the atheists a huge advantage in the end. Most theists are not willing to read outside the scope of creationism. They’re not willing to give an honest analysis of the workings of atheistic scholars but dwell on punchlines from Hitchens or Dawkins, whereas most atheists have a fairly thorough understanding of the creationist’s arguments. Those being the ontological argument, Kalam cosmological argument, argument from morality etc. Those are the best your side has to offer and yet there are holes in them! But even with these holes you expect us to believe in the existence of god? You’re the one that’s believing because you want to believe, not I. We’re not even saying that we know 100% that god does not exist. We’re only saying that we’re not convinced. You on the other hand are saying that you’re 100% sure that he does exist and, moreover, most probably that he crucified his son to save mankind.
Be honest, you didn’t even know wtf the unified field theory was before you stepped foot into this thread. I on the other hand learned about that shit in physics class. That quote did not explain specifically what he believed in! It explains specifically what he did not believe in! I’m not even trying to claim that he was an atheist or pantheist of any kind, just that it was never entirely clear. His use of the word was idiosyncratic. Read this article unless you wish to remain ignorant: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/print/2005/sep/26/subtle-are-einsteins-thoughts
I’ve been using both btw and gave the same grounds. Both can be achieved through Academics. How can Academics not DISPROVE something, that’s stupid. You even gave hints that you even know that academics is needed, just re-read the last post you gave in concerns of this. What accademics can’t do is change someones beliefs. I was glad that we are going back to the original argument but sadly your posts is more an asshole-format than it is at giving a point. But that’s pro-atheism for you, it’s not about academics just being a talented self-rationalist.
When did i say Einstein was a theist? Why are you atheists that incapable of reading comprhension that for some reason regardless of me addressing first that he didn’t believe in a personal god was ignored and you guys saying “you’re wrong, he’s not a theist”. Please fix your ability in reading before trying to contradict.
Fishjie, you just showed for the hundredth time that you really don’t know anything about religion, the bible or what christians believe. Didn’t the Bible say in the first chapter the Heavens and the Earth was made before the First Day (Aeon)? Yes it was possible for a global flood btw, but you just love hugging on what ever atheist article you read.
It’s not nitpicking, it’s exposing you for not knowing what you are talking about due to contradicting yourself. Shape up your little clever word play, please.
I love how you repeatedly use the dark ages in your arguments, it’s like you think the dark ages is the ultimate representation of Christianity. Christianity’s actual beliefs started and rooted from Judaism. You have no knowledge of any thing in the theological aspects. Christians who actually studied the bible do not believe in that specific hell. There is little to no scriptural evidence of it in the first place nor was it ever known to be believed in by Judaism. Even though Cisco is more of a troll, it’s actually understandable why he does not believe in the popular concept of hell. But you on the other hand think that the burn in hell is part of Christianity’s doctrine which is why i state over and over again that you are ignorant. Everything you gave since the beginning against the Bible was all wrong. The “universe created in 7 -24 hr days-”, Hell, and the rest of the specific verses you snipped out at times are all examples of how little you know. It seems to me you are just some angry kid.
Moron might be stretching it a tad.
I’d say Imbecile, at best.
Yes, I went there.
It didn’t take long for the personal insults to start sarcasm
Whenever you want to get your point across throw in some expletives and personal attacks
mowr, StarvinMarvin, Cisco.
How were none of these shitheads selected for the Three Stooges movie?
Don’t affiliate me with the two. I am greater than those two and greater than you but i’m not in a full mood to ass kick like i normally did.
All of you are lucky that i have actually posted in this thread and in the gd. My concern of now is returning the manliness to srk.
I’ve always liked this.
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yes cause nara-tards really know about religion. Biggest prob I have with having no god or gods, is you cant really prove what is good or bad, right or wrong.
You almost had me there.
Almost.
Don’t try to trick a man like that before he has a beer.
fishjie owned you so hard every time you posted in the past, that you had to take a break, because he shattered your bullshit illusions of grandeur harder than he shattered you bullshit arguments.
Who the fuck do you think you are kidding?
Everyone who was around back then knows this.
Are you trying for 09er approval?
LOL. Fishjiz never won a debate with me. This site is just pro-atheist bias who don’t read nor want to admit defeat and just yap the same point dodging garbage. I gave an excellent case the last time and i never got even one example as a response, just the same sourthern fundie and out of topic like responses and cop outs. Especially that bear reference… lol at net junkies.
It looks like everyone here wants me to do this religion debate again.
Greatest poster?
Hardly.
SRK’s greatest poster didn’t really go in on threads catering to your particular brand of stupidity.
Unless the religion being argued is 3S.
But he was a 3S atheist.
And you are no Viscant.
You want to feel the intellectual slap i gave to all the atheist opponents i’ve had? I am not Marvin nor Mawr they are peon posters compared to me. I am something like the final boss that requires high level and final weapons.
3S is a boring and slow game anyway. I’m more on Marvel and i bring it in brokeness.
I don’t see fish losing this argument. Mostly because he doesn’t have to make up his own titles of being the “Greatest Poster on Shoryuken”, like how Sovi3t is the “Most Sexually Deviant Member of GD”.
You guys see an argument, I see a successful troll.
Might as well change the thread title to the “Cisco & StarvinMarvin show”.
Is that an Itchy & Scratchy spin off?
Everybody knows I’m the best.