Gouken SF4 Ultra Updates

This netcode is ASSSSSSSSSSSS!

been a long time since i played. does anybody thing that gouken was busted in vanilla.
old ass match.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fik-5pqqrj8

hahahaha i remember those ex flips on reaction to being hit hoping we baited em…lol

I have at least a few replays of some of the earliest jab reset backthrows known , and also probably one of two sources that would have been vortexing with gouken since vanilla , and has replays of that also…lol nice vanilla retro vid tho

started practicing again and crunching frame data. holy shit to any character that focus attack backdash cancels against gouken on gaurd. ex tatsu start up improved to 5 frame start up from 7 which equals 200 damage reversal and the active hit box is bigger. so if you get hit with 5… you die. lmao

A buddy of mine sent me this video.

I love the cr. lp, cr. lp, stand lk, cr. lp >> palm/tatsu

and

the cl mp, mp, cr. mp >> tatsu

check it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4obbKJzQt0k

Those combos are incredible! Holy shit. Linking all of his lights seems so difficult to do mid match :confused:

Yeah, cr. lp is a 1 frame links to cancel into tatsu/palm

sigh - I wish we had at list +2 or even +1 on hit with cr. lp

The more i play Gouken in Ultra the more i feel that his buffs are very minuscule and not much of a game changer for Gouken (except ex tatsu of course)

Anyone else feel the same?

extatsu is great, 3fr jab is great, cr.mp is nice to have, jab hit confirm is meh. in general i think gouken got much better mainly because opps need to respect da extatsu bomb. maybe a bit early, but dwu hurts him more than it helps imo…

SMH I’m not sure what to tell you man. Maybe its just over my head but I don’t know what Capcom is thinking.

They most dramatic change I’ve seen is the already beastly Cammy being able to dive kick out of her hooligan throw (because she had problems getting in apparently).

red focus is silly, i play yun myself and feel guilty…

i’m glad he doesn’t have those jab hit confirms into special etc… because 90% already have that and feel the same. this helps Gouken stick out and use his slightly safe MP and depend on other ways to do damage. i like the changes he got (except DF grab. WTF was wrong with that!!! and is it just me or does it whiff more?) and i’m glad EX tatsu is the only tatsu that hits crouchers but he should have gotten back his two counters instead of three. also, DWU is his biggest nerf. i so fucking hate it that it’s hard to notice all the buffs he got, so i agree with you on that part. they feel miniscule. but hey, he’s got the flashiest combos still IMO.

DWU is not a nerf to gouken… Im still getting use to the timing mid game as I have only practice against it in Ranked, all that dwu shit dont hurt gouken one bit… but it just means learn new timing for his old setups , if you must use those only, but the flood gates are open theres manual timing out there to be discovered in them hills

I am really eager to see if Gouken will be represented at EVO today. I hope at least one Gouken comes out of the woods and represents him well or maybe even some counter pick surprises by top players. But I also expect a lot of Yun’s and Evilness…

I wish I could to to evo!

He does have jab hit confirms, one framelink or not. Veloc1raptor just destroyed some poor Balrog on stream and used jab hit confirms plenty.

I wish I had caught that match. I saw another Gouken who was less successful.

Speaking of veloc1raptor…

Woohoo here’s hoping for our Gouken brother to make top 8

Good to see gouken in a real tourney. My body is ready. BTW. Hi, guys!

I have to reiterate again that tatsu needs to be fixed. If I get a clean hit, I need the final kick, or I need a hard knockdown so I’m not getting punished on a solid connect.