I saw Osiris doing c.lk palm as a footsies tool and it really catches people who like pressing buttons.
Lp palm as a frame trap is going to be so good against button mashers and crouch techers. Has anyone tested if we can use it on reaction against specials that move toward us. Psycho Crusher, Rush Punches, Guy Rush etc. ?
I’ve read before that you could. I think Brian Jones posted that, but not on his thread iirc.
does anyone know if cr.mp x lp palm is an airtight blockstring?
Yes but it whiffs at max range.
In super? I think it A) depends on the distance of your c.mp and B) lp palm is going to be punishable even if the string is airtight.
i love using c.mp<lp palm. get’s them most of the time especially when you’re using standing poke strings. imo its like the the other shoto’s c.mk<hadouken but this knocks down.
Yeah that’s going to be particularly good in AE b/c of safe short palm. I still think my bnb knock down move is going to be cl. st. mp > lp hado > cr. roundhouse, you can plink the cr. roundhouse and it will connect almost every time. If you select counter hit to be “on” in training mode, and try it you can get the timing down on it before AE comes out. You can also opt. not to use cr. roundhouse if you’d like to push away and bait or frame trap them again.
The big question is, is st. mp > lp hado an air tight block string in AE since it’s 2 in 1 now…
Damn it… June 7th!
Why are people saying lp palm is safe? Just because it doesn’t move you forwards doesn’t mean it won’t still be -6.
You have the push back factor and depending on how you’ve spaced it. It’s -6 now and you can space it to be safe if you learn to land it a certain way. It’s all in this thread.
http://shoryuken.com/f268/frame-trapping-counter-hitting-gouken-242940/
Gilley said it’s -4 on block, I assumed it wasn’t safe, but people are saying ViperRX confirmed that it is because of pushback. I’m not sure what to believe right now.
just looking at it, it looks safe on block, i’ve not seen it punished and outside of chun super etc i dont see it happening, but it kills your momentum.
Dude, It’s -4. and it pushes far as fuck. ViperRX been playing the game for months and confirmed it to be safe even against bison’s cr. lk. both chun’s and ryu’s super might still hit, but I doubt it.
Don’t doubt that chuns will, that thing is Godlike. Ryus Heavy Super might, that thing is pretty fast. Might be just far enough to be safe though.
new gouken combo
corner only: nj.hp, s.hp, ex palm, ex fireball, j.mp(1 hit) xx hk air tatsu. 499 dam / 762 stun
Details in the video description.
I’ve already tested and confirmed that Ryu’s Super does indeed punish lp.palm on block. Anything other than that, especially if you 2-in-1 lp.Palm with a normal, Gouken is safe against anything else Ryu has in his arsenal from what I can see so far.
We need to check Ex.Hadoukens though yet, as they can lead to Ultra 1 w/ >= 3 bars.
just got ae so what should i be doing with light palm and close st. medium also what are the new bnbs and is the perry even worth using anymore?
I’m having trouble with the timing of backthrow j.mp sweep. Any tips?
In case anyone hasn’t figured it out yet, cr.lp s.mk xx lp palm combos.
It’s all in the timing of the j.mp. I hold up forwards. You want to do it really late.
…Read the thread and browse the forums for Gouken’s changes.
You can hit-confirm into sweep or cr.hp off s.mp.