Gouken Combos and Glitches

fadecy · July 28, 2009, 5:42am

g0dhand:

Your dash needs to to be within the first few free frames that you have after the recovery of the Ex.Palm. Try just practicing the dash after the Ex.Palm recovery. A good timing visual for this is when his arms are going back into standing position. When they’re close to him being in his normal stance, start dashing. Once you see your character dash (or you know you’ve input the dash properly) start executing your Tatsu mid dash. You’ll get it off for sure.

The full combo hits certain opponents every time. I’m positive on:

Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Gouken, Rufus, Zangief, Abel, Dictator, Boxer, Sagat, Honda. Basically, characters with a normal to larger hitbox.

The first kick only hits certain characters with a smaller hitbox. I’m positive on:

Dhalsim, Sakura, Guile, El Fuerte…

I can’t remember the rest for sure.

To be honest, while this combo is nice, and does decent damage and looks flashy, it’s not worth it. Ex.Palm linked into a mp.Palm does damage close very close to being comparable. Recovery is also quicker, and you can set your opponent up for a wake-up fully charged lp.Hadou on wake up if they don’t perform a quick recover.

From there if you have meter, you have enough time to pressure with an Ex.Demon Flip dive kick for more shenanigans. If you confirm the fully charged lp.hadou from across the screen, dive kick gives you a 3-hit link and you can continue to combo from here (s.hp, cr.hp xx ex.Palm/more demon shenanigans xx … continue)If they block, continue with your block string, block a counter, or throw (from ground).

You’re better off with this scenario to hold the pressure. While the Ex.Palm --> Dash --> Tatsu pushes your opponent across screen, you’re left to deal with your own very long recovery because it’s only worth doing this combo with fk.Tatsu. All you’ve done is push your opponent and reset the distance. That, and you leave yourself with with a very significant decrease at a chance for a follow up.

By the way, thank you to Raunwynn for the logic on this subject. :china:

I just tend to bash dash around about the time that the ex palm is finishing and then as soon as I see him dash I do the tatsu. It is rather annoying it doesn’t hit on certain characters though.

parlance998 · July 28, 2009, 11:53pm

thanks, g0dhand! exactly what i needed.

Tonren · July 29, 2009, 12:39am

I just tap Forward three times instead of twice, after waiting for the second hit to land.

System_1 · July 30, 2009, 12:42pm

I had today play vs Gouken and got some situation
GOuken has full super and Ultra,
I jumped on him, and get countred with rdp+MP,
and then He cansel Ultra right after counter so it juggle.

It was no super, no FADC(super metter still was full) but how?
waiting for answer

Jimmy_Mook · July 30, 2009, 3:35pm

hello, obviously from your location english isn’t your 1st language so I’m just trying to decipher this.

during the freeze screen of the Kongoshin (counter, parry) gouken can cancel into his specials ( have a video link of this but at work at the moment) Cancel into super works best but not many gouken players usually keep EX stock for that long!

Not sure if it does the full ultra animation ( maybe you were in the corner?) either way its not an anomaly for gouken

System_1 · July 30, 2009, 3:57pm

it was midscreen.
but the point was is canceling intro ultra how?
specails like Kongoshin can be canceled only in SUPER,
may be I miss something but only one who can cancel intro ULT it is Dan super taunt->ULT

yep sorry for my English, comrad

howling · July 30, 2009, 4:18pm

Maybe you mean kongoshin into FADC and ultra?

EDIT: oh, he said it wasnt FADC. I heard here before that you can cancel the blue blink you get when you get hit during focus attacks and armor moves with ultras. Heard boxer was able to do it with his rush punches. maybe that was it? Never seen it though.

Example: boxer does ex dash straight, gets hit by a fireball in the middle and cancels the blue blink into an ultra.

Also, besides my past bullshit with cr. mp, hadouken(yes, I realize now, sorry guys ), I just wanted to point out that ex palm into tatsu works on guile but the timing is very tight and not worth it indeed. Just for informations sake

System_1 · July 31, 2009, 2:11pm

wow
but why no where is information about
Blue blink cancel ULT

howling · July 31, 2009, 8:48pm

Hey, dont quote me on it, I just just heard about it, not sure if its real

Hiryu02 · August 2, 2009, 3:03am

On one of the videos on this forum I noticed what looked to be a HK tatsu fully canceled into his FA to produce a crumple. Is this a reliable combo, or was the Gouken I saw just playing a scrub?

Thanks in advance for clarifying.

Raunwynn · August 2, 2009, 8:36am

i do not believe this is possible.
you cannot crumple an airborne opponent.

Hiryu02 · August 2, 2009, 9:17am

I’ll have to find the video again, I guess. What it looked like was a standing HK Tatsu on a standing opponent. Tatsu was canceled before either player left the ground and the FA hits clean. It appeared as though both players never left the ground.

I might be mistaken, or my memory incorrect, but I’ll do my best to find it again and link it, whether I’m wrong or right.

Edit: And of course, now that I look for it, I can’t find it. The video itself wasn’t that memorable, the only thing I saw that was interesting was that tatsu into FA, or so I thought. Maybe my mind is playing tricks with me, go figure.

Edit 2: Found it! and I’m wrong…oh well. It’s Dirty Bodega playing a Viper, and he doesn’t crumple. He does stay on the ground, but the tatsu launches, and somehow the FA connects in the air, but no crumple. Oh well. My mistake, sorry. It’s at 1:55 of this video, right after Viper misses the ultra.

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reasoned · August 2, 2009, 5:11pm

It looks like he messed up a tatsu fadc ultra and got the FA instead.

Hiryu02:

I’ll have to find the video again, I guess. What it looked like was a standing HK Tatsu on a standing opponent. Tatsu was canceled before either player left the ground and the FA hits clean. It appeared as though both players never left the ground.

I might be mistaken, or my memory incorrect, but I’ll do my best to find it again and link it, whether I’m wrong or right.

Edit: And of course, now that I look for it, I can’t find it. The video itself wasn’t that memorable, the only thing I saw that was interesting was that tatsu into FA, or so I thought. Maybe my mind is playing tricks with me, go figure.

Edit 2: Found it! and I’m wrong…oh well. It’s Dirty Bodega playing a Viper, and he doesn’t crumple. He does stay on the ground, but the tatsu launches, and somehow the FA connects in the air, but no crumple. Oh well. My mistake, sorry. It’s at 1:55 of this video, right after Viper misses the ultra.

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JohnGrimm · August 3, 2009, 11:25am

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Don’t know if this combo is old or not, does 729 damage, which damn near made me cry, 4 bars + ultra, I’d say it’s damn worth it.

Hahahahaha I just pulled this online and I got a message saying “Gouken? More like Brouken.”

Nebuul · August 4, 2009, 2:09pm

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Here’s a couple fun combos I just put up. It’s a lot easier to do like 700-750 damage with gouken since smaller numbers of big hits do so much more damage, but these are just fun to pull off. The first one especially.

Kanta-Kun · August 14, 2009, 11:59pm

I think I found something to get the same damage in the corner from counter to Ultra as you do midscreen:

Counter xx FADC > Ex gohadou > Shin Shoryuken (677dmg)

Kanta-Kun · August 15, 2009, 12:41am

I’m not sure, but I think that only works in large characters, like Sagat Gief and Seth.

JohnGrimm · August 15, 2009, 2:00pm

I’ve done it to Vega too, but I don’t really try it out too much, because my timing is horrible and I usually end up wasting EX.

shenakuma · August 15, 2009, 8:14pm

Played a Dan yesterday. So the Dan super’d out of my EX palm in the corner after 1st hit confirm of the Ex palm. o__Q

mr.sloppy2nds · August 16, 2009, 12:17pm

Damn, this is possible?
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…damn, these vids got me wet!