Ghostbusters II Part 2 - The Sequel

(comes back to see almost 50 posts since yesterday…because people are again making the mistake of replying to Raz0r

…This is part of the reason why I hate humanity.)

As for its score on other review sites, even before what JohnGrimm explained, for the most part I’ve never really trusted aggregate scores on review sites or even most reviews in general. After all, a bunch of people can shill for something horrible even without a conscious agenda, which this movie clearly has going for it, and then I can go see it and still think it’s the worst thing ever and vice versa. As far as I’m concerned, between Feig’s apparent bitch-made-ness and the horrible trailers, even before the confirmation that it was “mediocre at best” the movie had at already lost me since there’s no reason I have to go see a bad movie “just because”, especially if I have to pay for it.

Anyway, all this talk of reviewing stuff properly makes wonder what Ebert would think about this film if he were still alive though.

I don’t typically agree with much of what this guy produces, but this gives an interesting look at the events leading up to this film, and why I will not support it.

The way Ivan Reitman was tossed aside is enough to raise an eyebrow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM6GYHUmLqY

Wait a minute, is Melissa McCarthy cast as Stay Puft in this movie?

https://youtu.be/nmWi_MOmWN4

I just spotted this guy’s review. It’s fairly balanced and pretty much in line with what most people have been saying about the movie just being “okay but forgettable.”

Yes.

So has SRK graduated from hating on the film’s existence to hating on the mostly okay reviews?

Don’t answer that.

Have you graduated to being a man and facing criticism of your shitty opinions instead of running away every time one of your passive-aggressive posts gets rebuffed?

No?

Alright then.

Reviews were going to be suspect since the hate started. To be fair, I can’t trust reviews as a whole as is for games/movies/shows.

Then don’t ask.

(Why would one hate on reviews anyway beyond being skeptical about them?)

Again, people can like crappy movies if they want to. That generally has no effect on me beyond being annoyed when crappy movies like Transformers get (several) sequels–thanks, China, you monster–while movies that (I think) are good might fail at the box office and when my best friend likes a bad movie like 28 Weeks Later whereas I just roll my eyes at him.

Try harder please or at least wait until the movie actually comes out and has its first weekend at the box office to attempt to actually gloat about it since it being just mediocre at best is sure as fuck nothing to be praised about for how “ground-breaking” we were repeatedly told that this movie was supposed to be (with its nigh black-face character).

Hey! Don’t insult Stay Puft Man like that! He’s sensitive about his weight.

It’s really sad to see what a pathetic fall Specs has taken over the past couple of years. I actually used to respect this guy…

A few more reviews.

https://youtu.be/-tC27RDtosM

https://youtu.be/ythvf0zrRZI

https://youtu.be/kJjAz7lIBRU

https://youtu.be/9XPcsPUQUY8

The irony is M. Bison.

EDIT - Okay I thought long and hard about this and that post was terrible. Jesus fuck, if I’m going to drive by post I should at least be clever. Let me try that again:

ahem

Cosmic forces clash all the time in this vast universe, but two stand out above them all, two so epic in scale it makes the last fight in Gurren Lagann look tame: the great, powerful Dr. B, and the irony of that post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYzyTSe1qTQ

He isn’t wrong. So far I’ve seen a couple posters in here praise the bad reviews and when a moderate to good one comes out they shout “CONSPIRACY” as loud as they internetly can. It’s a hell of a thing living like a life that empty.

Well in addition to one example of a random youtuber with questionable connections we also have the revised IGN review, several of the good reviews coming from authors who have previously written bias and ideologically driven articles in favor of the movie and rumours of the GB wiki editing out negative reviews. It isn’t much of a conspiracy as much as it is just connection the dots. If you have someone reviewing the movie with the opening sentence or headline being "manbabies lose the new ghostbusters girl power rocks"I think it’s reasonable to question how objective they are.

The funny thing is that a lot of the positive reviews still agree the movie is very flawed and just sort of meh but they still give it a good score due to the political message. If you want a example of this just watch grace Randolph’s review. She says the movie the is just okay and even said on Twitter to watch it with low expectations, yet she still insisted people watch it because of the “message.”

(Well you should know since even if that was actually true it still seems less empty than a life where you constantly play Devil’s advocate on the Internet out of boredom in between being intoxicated out of your mind half of the time.)

Personal attacks aside, please point to where anyone’s said “conspiracy!” about any of the reviews posted in here beyond simply saying that of course some people are going to be paid to shill for the movie, especially given you implicitly agreed with that notion given what you just said at the bottom of the last page.

At most people have less been celebrating the fact that a movie is maybe going to bomb, other than rubbing it in Feig’s apparently cry-baby face given the insulting things he and McCarthy said about the movies detractors in blanket statements while deflecting from the movie’s actual issues, and have just been expressing disappointment about the seemingly affirmed at-best-mediocre aspect of the movie. You brought up earlier that you didn’t understand how anyone could say so much bad things about a movie without seeing it and then have the nerve to turn around and try to shame people for discussing reviews that basically reaffirm the majority of our fears? This despite the fact, again, most of us didn’t want this movie to be bad or at best mediocre, which should be obvious.

Seriously, I’m unsure what’s difficult to understand this if you’re actually not just trolling like always without automatically going to cries of “wah! Misogynists with no life!”, but at this point I don’t care beyond calling you on your bullshit one final time.

You love following me around for your own sick fantasies.

Anyways ignoring the trolls for now, Max landis gave the movie a 5/10 on his Twitter and basically said the movie is funny at parts but ultimately dull and just meh. It seems to be a reoccurring opinion of this movie even from people who recommend it.

Also here is one reason why mainstream media outlets aren’t probably the most objective and reliable sources for opinions about the movie.

http://heatst.com/tech/media-trolled-by-pro-ghostbusters-redditor-but-wont-make-corrections/