Exhibit #A: Venkman giving negative F#@KS, and wiping out Ghost Train with a proton bazooka
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As for as the current storyline (Ghostbusters International), the group is handling international incidents but the main background centers on this:
A mysterious entity trying to find a spell book made to control the devil himself, which was hidden by the Vatican for centuries sounds a more badass than paranormal nutcase trying to become Gozer!!
Everyone from the Ghostbusters creators, staff, fandom accepts the 09 game for the 360 and PS3 as the 3rd movie!!
Ghostbusters has a primarily male fanbase so making the next film a chick flick is a terrible move. Alienates fans of the original movies/cartoons, and even though it seems to be catering towards women…they never had much interest in the franchise in the first place. What if Cinderella was completely change to be a movie that caters to men? Would women being upset mean they are anti male?
(I haven’t read on-going American comics in over a decade, but I’ll admit that IDW comics I’ve seen look interesting. Still, I’ll probably never get around to reading any of them since I’m lazy like that.
Ugh. Please stop “helping”, blufang. Having an all-female main cast doesn’t automatically make something a “chick flick” anymore than having an all-male main cast should make something automatically inaccessible to women. Saying shit like that only feeds into the false narrative that people (read: men) dislike this movie “only” because they’re misogynists.
People would still dislike this movie, at least what we’ve seen from the horrible trailers, if the cast was still all-male honestly. The all-female aspect serves only to make the seemingly egregious flaws of this movie worse because it allows the movies’s defenders (and shillers) to hide behind the above false narrative and not take responsibility for any of things they fucked up like casting, basic plot, and basic tone.
I think the point of what Ernie Hudson was saying was that Ghostbusters is not Ghostbusters without the original four guys. He would probably have said the same thing if it were four different guys instead the original four as well.
That said, even if this movie did have the original cast, it’s not like the movie would be a guaranteed hit. There’s plenty of examples of movies having an all star cast and flopping anyways, although I doubt anyone of the original four would have been on board if the script was shit, not to mention Murray’s obvious disdain for doing another Ghostbusters film.
Agreed, which is why I was saying earlier why I was surprised they just didn’t go with that if they were trying to appeal to the politically correct crowd so hard. Then again, I also said that seeing how utterly weak the script makes me so glad that it was spared from their stupidity.
I happened to see just a bit more of the actual movie due to that Jimmy Kimmel thing above last night and, gods, it was like catching a glimpse of the Ark of the Fucking Covenant: it’s even worse than I already imagined.
They’ve created female versions of the old cast. The brainy one, the black one, the smart alecky leader, etc. Chris Hemsworth is brought it as an air head pretty boy male secretary that the ghostbusters (and the female audience surely) gawk at. It isn’t the ‘female cast’ it is the whole tone of the film based on everything revealed so far.
It’s become the most hated movie in history (before release) as a result.
(The Last Airbender was perhaps still more hated before its release, though maybe in not such a “mainstream” way.)
We are agreed on the tone being an issue, as I said at the end of that post. We are similarly agreed that this is a blatant cash-grab trying to make money off of the nostalgia for the original, down to the (confusing, as AVGN pointed out,) title being the same.
Neither of those things refutes what I was pointing out as the flaw of part of your original post: that having an all-female main cast does not necessarily a “chick flick” make and that the gender-swap–technically sex-swap–issue is actually a minor one, at best, when compared with the actual issues that people have with this film, i.e. that it’s incredibly lazy.
:lol: @ youtube comment pointing out at 39 seconds Bill Murray being disgusted at the clip, that’s reaching a bit. Bill Murray is one of the last people in Hollywood that come to mind when I think “sellout” so him praising the film sounds more like he genuinely liked it rather than PR speak, nothing could convince me to pay to see this in theaters and be part of the problem of shitty looking soulless reboots, but I’m definitely going to stream this film online out of curiosity, and at this point I think this film will do okay at the box office. Fantastic 4 reboot got panned, but never got 10% of the attention GB is getting now, and the saying there’s no such thing as bad publicity might hold true here, everyone’s going to see it just to see how bad it is or because they want to support women or because they’re diehard GB fans, or because they’re fans of the actors, or any number of reasons so I’d be surprised if it bombed as hard as Fantastic 4 and Last Airbender.