GGXX:Accent Core Thread! [AMERICAN PS2 RELEASE, GO GO GO!]

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American PS2 release is out, so a new thread is here to save the day!

As a resource for all SRK people who are interested in learning Guilty Gear with the American release of Accent Core, here are links to the best threads on dustloop. As usual, PM me if you need help. I generally dislike open ended questions, but can help with more specific ones. It is also much easier to communicate with higher level players on specific strategies, and would appreciate all high-level gamers AIMing / PMing me.

First off, if you have never played Guilty Gear before, I HIGHLY recommend you read this thread. It will be your bible, to say the least. Everything will be machine code without it. [http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=372

Now, if you’ve played any of the XX series, and just want a quick refresher to this new game, check this thread. Worth a read if you are new, also. [http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2246]

These are general resources that are very, very commonly visited among the community. I visit the Frame Data and Video Posting thread the most out of the entire forum.

ABA:
Combo Thread - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2964

AXL:
General Strats - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2896,
Combos Thread - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2894
Pressure Strings - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2895
Match-ups - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2898

BAIKEN:
Baiken 101 - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3195
Strats - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2294
Combos - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2295

BRIDGET:
http://dustloop.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=12

CHIPP:
Post by Kasou with links - http://dustloop.com/forums/showpost…37&postcount=2

DIZZY:
Okizeme - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2887
Videos - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2737
Combos - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3175
Match-ups - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2774

EDDIE:
Index of Info - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3334

FAUST:
Okizeme - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3278
Combos - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2891
Match-ups - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2951
Videos - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3313

I-NO:
READ THIS READ THIS READ THIS READ THIS READ THIS READ THIS READ THIS
http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1162
Combos - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3360

JAM:
Match-up - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3093
Basics - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3095

KY:
Basics - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=772
Combos - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3401

MAY:
anything by pulsr - http://dustloop.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=21

MILLIA:
Q&A - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=680
Combo - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2888

ORDER-SOL:
Combos - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2564
Match-ups - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3003

POTEMKIN:
FDBable Attacks - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1968
SLASH guide to Potemkin (still good!) - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83

ROBO-KY:
Talky talky - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2584
Basics - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3130
Videos - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3375
Match-ups - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3415

SLAYER:
GODLIKE 101 THREAD A MUST READ WOULD BUY FROM AGAIN A++++++++ http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2792
Specific Combo Thread - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3121
BROKEN STRATS THAT ARE TOO STRONG - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3357

SOL:

… I will have someone work on this. The threads are huge and impossible read through.

TESTAMENT:
Basics - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2950
Videos - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2947

VENOM:
Basics - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2975

ZAPPA:
Using The Timer To Choose Summons - http://dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3376

LINKS UPDATED AS I FIND BETTER ONES


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GGXXAC      - EASY       STANDARD      KINDA HARD   HARD
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BEGINNER    - KY         SOL           ABA          FAUST
EASY        - ORDER-SOL  BAIKEN        AXL          ANJI
STANDARD    - POTEMKIN   BRIDGET       DIZZY        VENOM
KINDA HARD  - MAY        MILLIA        JAM          TESTAMENT
HARD        - ROBO KY    JOHNNY        CHIPP        I-NO
VERY HARD   -            SLAYER        EDDIE        ZAPPA
  • Note that in addition to the difficulty rankings in that table, each character is grouped into one of four character “types”. These types are:

Standard: These are the Ryu/Ken types, well-rounded with no really great strengths or weaknesses. Overall the “easiest” to learn, in a sense.
Power: These are the heavy-hitters, the tradeoff being a lack of speed and not as varied in their options.
Speed: Fast characters with many options, but not as much damage dealing, plus they tend to be on the weaker side in terms of being able to take damage.
Tricky: Just what it sounds like, these are the characters who are unorthodox in design. They are hard to play but tend to be difficult to figure out how to fight.

Standard characters: Sol, Ky, Axl, Anji, Bridget
Power characters: May, Potemkin, Johnny, Slayer, Robo-Ky, A.B.A.
Speed characters: Millia, Chipp, Jam, Dizzy, Order-Sol
Tricky characters: Eddie, Faust, Baiken, Venom, Testament, I-no, Zappa-

Old thread stuff.

My terrible guide to “basic movement” - http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost...postcount=2297

My terrible Testament guide. - http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost...postcount=2320

More random Testament stuff. -
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost...postcount=2364

My terrible May guide. - http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost...postcount=2348

My terrible ABA guide. -
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost...postcount=2374

My terrible Ky guide. -
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost...postcount=2397

My awesome Slayer guide. -
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost...postcount=2399

Dr. Stormlocke’s awesome Robo-Ky Guide. -
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost...postcount=2414

My terrible Order-Sol guide. -
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost...postcount=2427

Mr. Mamations’ Ky Guide. -
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost...postcount=2437

Mr. Mamation’s Ky Guide part 2~~ -
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost...postcount=2617

Random cool properties. -
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost...postcount=2613

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Let’s say I’m using Testament, and I’ve laid a tree, net, and high skull. Let’s say my opponent trips one of my traps. Does the specific trap that my opponent sets off matter regarding what I can followup with to combo?

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Yes.

Depending on your range, you can learn to react and combo into 6K -> Badlands, to go for the badlands loop.

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Subscribe.

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i got you covered on that oki explanation.
it will be in the “key” section

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Incredible Slayer Combo Video.

http://stage6.divx.com/user/tetsu_dbz/video/1633547/DEAD-ON-TIME

“DEAD ON TIME”.

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koogy -

I took the liberty of copying and pasting your mind-boggling Testament general info under dustloop.com’s Testament Q & A / Gameplan thread. I hope you don’t mind (I cited you as original source), cuz I think it’ll help newb Testament players to find Testament info in… gasp Testament’s thread at dustloop.com. CRAZY!

If you need me to take it down, I can do that; just thought others not registered to SRK might want to share in the Testament wealth over at dustloop.com

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So is this supposed to replace the other massive AC thread?

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Correct. The other thread was pretty terrible, IMO. This will help clean it up and be :lovin::lovin::lovin::lovin::lovin::lovin:

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So, I’ve been watching tons of match vids of Shounen.

W
T
F

Are you serious? This guy RAPES. Like, absolutely rapes people; no kiss, no hug, just pure rape. Wow. I’m impressed and more psyched to play Testament as ever (although I fully understand I’m many months away from even half his level).

There’s something that he does, which I’m sure requires god-like execution/mindgames, in this video that I want to know how to do, as it looks like a SICK lockdown trap that leads into low/high mixups…

[media=youtube]QStLv-6IyFs&mode=related&search=[/media]

at 0:15. What the hell just happened?

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if you mean all those 5P’s then he was baiting the burst. Or at least trying to.

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So what are the confirmed changes?

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you mean 6P, 5S©, 5S(f), 2D, badlands?

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Like, the setup, not the combo. Was that HS EXE Beast -> Zeinest? The HS EXE Beast hits/pushes the opponent from behind, then Zeinest hits/pushes the opponent from the front (also cutting off the opponent’s avenue of jumping)? Then Testament just mixes up until he gets a combo starting hit?

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Shounen is god. This was the moment I figured that out, back when #R was in it’s peak, and he made this video. [media=youtube]n86uAijyf4U[/media]

You may also remember him as a 3S Urien player. (He used Blue Urien) So, being a combo master is nothing new to him.

shounen vs. ka2 transcript:

(starting at 0:14)…

aerial badlands (combo end)… 1 character away blood web as jam gets up. Testament waits a split second, throws S EXE beast (the one that comes towards him) (FRC). Jam faultless defenses, pushing her quickly away from the blood web, only to be pushed back towards Testament just as quickly (she also FD’ed the EXE Beast) Testament performs his 50/50, because Jam is being pushed into him.

One thing to bring up, is that the arcade version has lag when you put a bunch of stuff on the screen at once.

EDIT: I forgot to mention in my little Testament guide… If you are too far away to actually throw a bloodweb over them on wake-up, you CAN do S EXE Beast FRC, and it has a similar effect. It forces them to block while you run up and perform your mix-up. So, that part of the video just shows Testament doing BOTH of his okizeme options at once.

Did that help you at all, Arsenal?

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Can anyone explain how to do a Lightning Sphere and then a Charged Drive after a Charged Stun Edge. Every time I attempt to do it nothing happens and just the CSE comes out.

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i read the first link (FAQ thingie). is this game arcade perfect?

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koogy -

yes, that helps. that setup is sick looking, and apparently, effective. also, as better info/threads pop up on dustloop, you should constantly update your first post; confirmed changes from JP to US PS2 versions, gameplay basics, etc…

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after it comes out wait a second and then 46H :stuck_out_tongue:

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You have to Input 214D (qcb+D) during the Start up of Charge Stun Edge. It’s after 9th Frame if that helps. It’s like Frame 9 to 15 or something like that.

Then during the Recovery of Lightning Sphere 46D will give you Charge Drive.