Getting Lauren To Bed: C. Viper USF4 Video Thread

Classic Fighting Games Ultra Street Fighter IV
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Them overheads tho! haha nice one :slight_smile:

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apollunai. try mix up a bit more, so use frame trap and burning kick cross up/throw bait to crack his defense, greats figths man.

so everyone itā€™s uploading his vids i do the same (lol). i play viper a long time a go but i still terrible.
Tips and feedback about mygameplan or mistakes are welcome.
Thanks in advance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oki-SKu2PqY

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That first round against the Bison, do that every round, that was good. I would have liked you to take away his charge a little bit more, to punish him for not quick rising.

There is no reason to be near Ryu. You went in a lot when you didnā€™t need to and randomly BKed in when you had the life lead and then lost it. Seismo > Ryu. Trading with fireball is a good thing. Will be covered in next tut. Congrats on the win.

EX seismo is not a poke. It worked like twice and you tried it a lot. Save that meter to make your c.MK xx MP TK buffers hurt more. Seismo & Zoning tut is gonna be out as soon as I get my computer back up and running.

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So good to hear ! Thanks floor.
I think I read somewhere you were also planning a tut for DWU setups ?

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Thanks for the feedback guys, I do think I still use EX Seismo as a panic button(Marvel Habit)

We need seismo zoning tut, TuT is life. Really appreciate all the vids Floor, you may hear it all the time but I probably wouldnā€™t have gotten half as far with this character without your tuts, much appreciated!

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Which frame traps exactly? The only frame trap Iā€™ve had success with is st.MP into cr.Fierce for the counter hit. What are the other useful frame traps?

Thanks again for the input, much appreciated

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Thanks Chewiie

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Here are two more vids for tips and review Gentlemen, thanks again for all your help

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBSj3aCNfb4

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Oh yeah! And what do I do about Rose?!?!? She just bodies me, there are 4 Roses here in Vegas that go to locals consistently. Get bodied every time I run into them in the bracket. Tips and feedback welcome, thanks.

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I think you were lucky against Cody. You missed many things, random HP. TK and ex. TK in the corner that were not punished. The other player was not that nice.

For Rose, I think you were just really predictable. During the first round I was able to tell exactly when you were about to neutral jump. You rely way too much on your cr. MP, TK cancel, overhead. I donā€™t see you crossup quite often. Try to mix !

Youā€™re Viper, youā€™re looking for a knockdown. But you donā€™t do much with it once you have it. Itā€™s pretty obvious against Rose at 1:47. You had a safe jump there. She reversed the pressure, got out of the corner and pushed you there with her Ultra 2. DONā€™T neutral jump against a Rose with Ultra 2 activated. Thatā€™s 2 hits for free and you get DPā€™d.

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Yeah. It was too in-depth of a topic to be included in the Ultra changes vid. It will be out after the whole tut is done.

Best Viper vs. most random Rose:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqXpDRRiuMk#t=52s
What is the first thing Latif does? Seismo zoning. And as soon as he goes in, he starts to lose.
No reason to be near this character. Seismo > Rose
Her backdash is gdlk. As far as I know you can only OS U1 from grounded pressure to catch her backdash. From safe jumps you can OS MP TK, c.HK, etc to catch it.
There is plenty of Latif vs Rose footage on YouTube with different Rose players: Luffy, Filipinoman, and Art.

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I found this video today. Basically itā€™s a cut of some advices Latif gave during some of his Razer livestream. Technical tips, counterhit combosā€¦ Heā€™s also talking about seismo zoning at the end of the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XplTo6MFUw

The more I study my mistakes, the more I realize that I lack the zoning game, which would actually be a great answer to some of my bad matchups.
Itā€™s not execution related at all. But to be honest, I just donā€™t know how to apply a good pressure with it. Even worse, since I got punished so badly Iā€™m now actually scared of using it. Iā€™m just doing feints, maybe releasing one once in a while, but nothing much. Result being that my opponent is less scared by Seismo than I am.

I have to use it against characters like Zangief, of courseā€¦ But I always make a mistake and get bodied. Gonna work on that !

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Thanks again for all the feedback and help guys, I really appreciate it. If you go to EVO this year, Iā€™ll buy you a beer(or juice if youā€™re not 21 lol)
Anyone found any insightful videos on Meterless FADC? Chuchuā€™s video didnā€™t help me much. I can only do it about 30% of the time so I donā€™t even try it in matches. Iā€™ll post a video of me failing at it for tips. Now meterless FADC is the only way Viper can combo into sweep, I feel like Iā€™m really missing out.

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I also feel like meterless FADC is a big part of having a threatening and smothering seismo game

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Here is a first to 3 I ran with an Oni player here in Vegas, tips for improvement welcome. Trying to grind for SCR

Thanks


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upxLFKhBq2M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrTvTkYSe7A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSrdbzeitIg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Rzsd8lq2M

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Meterless FADC is not that big of a deal. Thereā€™s an odd timing but thatā€™s pretty much it. Thereā€™s no particular secret motion to get it done. Just practice. :slight_smile:

For your videos, there are some things that bug me:

  • Please, please, stop random HP TK. You donā€™t play a Ken on the Xbox live. Youā€™re opponent didnā€™t punish properly but itā€™s really predictable. Or cancel them at least.
  • As Latif said in the video, doing TK feints from fullscreen is useless. You wonā€™t bait anything with it. Use seismo or youā€™re just making noise. :slight_smile:
  • You didnā€™t really mix him up. cr. MK, MP Tkā€¦ You should feint it once in a while and go for something else (grab, cross-up, try to bait his DP, look for a counter hit).
  • Your systematic backdash after cr. MK, MP. TK is extremely predictable. Youā€™ll get punish really hard for that if you fight better players.
  • Improve your wake-up game. When you get the momentum, donā€™t let him breathe.
  • This Oni pushes an awful lot of button when heā€™s under pressure. You should bait more.
  • Try to do more seismo chains, instead of seismo + LK BK.
  • Video 3: 1:36 => Ultra !

Hopefully, it will help. :slight_smile:

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Thanks for the feedback man, I still miss tk feints so Iā€™ll get a random HP TK or an EX TK. Iā€™ll work on my seismo game, much appreciated

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Watched a couple videos appolunai

In the first Video you missed an opportunity to kill the opponent twice with a red focus cancel, and with a super to chip for the kill after the mp.tk. I think this stems from habit just make an effort to analyze your bar situation more.

The first round you made a great point of emphasizing your seismo game which was great but in the second round after the opponent showed you he would just jump at youā€¦ you continued to seismo when you could have ST.HK punished or HP.TK anti air him forcing him to respect your feints. I also noticed you missed a free ultra. Just somethings to note at work atm but I could do a more detailed analysis when I get back home.

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Donā€™t you hate when you thought you had a match in the bag and then it gets taken from you? :neutral: Iā€™m still bad but Iā€™m working on it. Review for lols, tips and feedback always welcome. Much appreciated as always

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Not sure how to fight Decapre yet, so I just did random burnkicks. I usually get bodied by this character online.(I dont want to be a scrub) Please help me out with the match up and let me know what I should be doing/changing. Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08Y4uV0UGNg