I totally agree with that statement, but this is basic moves we’re talking…
How come I’m able to do feints alone, but I can’t use them do cancel a normal move ?? It makes no sense !!
Let me ask this now. Do you play the game on emulator? Neogeo AES? Arcade? or Console? This will help because console version of the game runs at a faster frame rate so that might be messing you up. Well mainly the PS2 and 360 versions.
Practice, practice, practice. Really, that’s the only way to get it. I’m not very good at feinting myself, but with practice you can manage to at least land one feint combo.
Try it out with Kevin or Terry; Input C, quickly press Fwd+AC, then press C again.
If your using an emulator, set one of the keys or buttons to A+C and try then.
Nocturnal > I’m playing it on Neo Geo MVS (AES version is way too expensive) connected to a supergun
Tizoc > Yeah I’ll try again with Kevin this time
I haven’t seen a Jae this wicked in a long time:
Can somebody post an URL of site with Garou 2 Beta info?
About the throw escape bug, don’t you guys forget this is pretty situational, and since the Griffon players knows it as well, even though he can’t use it in any situation, he still has options aside for punishing/other setups for 360 and 720 grabs.
Though he’s still lowtier anyway :-B
what i was going for would be playing a good freeman.
Its pretty hard to find them. I know I’m one of the few that chooses to maim him. Any ways what exactly are you trying to find out? maybe i can be of some assistance
I just wanna fight people that use him.
I don’t know what there really is to learn about this dude, he’s pretty much yang but a bit slower and in game where lots of dudes can counter yang. I head he supposedly feint cancels a lot but I don’t see it even in japan tournaments and generally i just launch with some slashes or go for the punish with his big slahsing super if i do anything “advanced” with him.
What’s your ggpo handle, where are you located and what times are you usually on?
eh well i normally on supercade. I play him some what similar. Though its possible to punish people with freeman, how ever he has a hard time doing this consistently.
SF3 and garou my not be the best comparison IMO. Though they share similar tools, I think they both apply different tactics. Yang seems more like a pressure person and gets his damage from combos. While freeman heavily relies on poke harassment and fishing for player mistakes to use his tool viably
Did you check that link I posted with Freeman videos? A lot of those matches show what good Freeman’s can do. Those are the best Freeman players around. You can learn a lot by just looking at those matches and practicing their strings/setups. GGPO is probably your best bet on finding people who use Freeman. Just ask in the room itself and see if anyone is willing to use him.
Ah okay. If anything it might be the stick you are using which is at fault here. I’ve never tried those sticks before though but I know they aren’t the best for the AES. I’ll see if I can make that video by tomorrow and post it up.
Yea I already saw that vid. 777 seems to be getting better each time I see him play now. That’s a good thing though. He did say before the Total Eclipse tournament that he wanted to get better at MOTW and LB2. I guess it shows he’s been practicing.
You talking about this site: http://www.neogeoprotos.com/games/garou_special.htm. Not really sure if those are legit screens. A lot of people say it’s Mugen. The only true fact about the game from SNK was that it was 70% completed before they went bankrupt.
It’s very true. Even though the throw escape bug is in the game, you still ways to bait attempts and punish them for it. So it can become a guessing game. Tizoc has ways of sneaking in grabs when least expected also. Even without the throw bug he still has a lot of hard match ups overall. So that puts him prettty low in the tiers. I have fun using him though. I think he’s a good character for improving your JDing/defense overall.
Seeing a Hotaru player win two events in the last few months, are their new views on her overall effectiveness? Maybe she is closer to mid with Butt/Terry than with Freeman and Hoko.
Also,
I just last night changed my button layout from
A B C D
to
A C
B D
and my ability to feint increased soo much. Hitting AC is MUCH easier with those two fingers. Doing the breaks will be slightly harder, but I must say that this is leagues better than the straight up A B C D method. I can do the downward feints better than the horiz, but that is because my stick is old, has too much give. It seems you want to push the stick forward first, then push the buttons. Not that you want to do them all at the same time. They give you a split second to push the buttons after you completely put the stick in the proper position.
Hotaru is very solid actually. She has the tools to give the higher tier problems. The fact that she has both a command grab on the ground and air grab really help her on her mixups. The only problem she has though is low stamina compared to other characters. She also gets guard crushed pretty easy. Also not having an easy option to combo from a low kinda hurts her a bit. She can combo from :d: + :snkb: but you either have to do it meaty on wake up or use the kara cancel method but that requires you to commit to the combo.
As for button layouts it’s all a preference really. I can use just about any layout for MOTW I just need to adjust to the layout after a few matches. I tend to adapt pretty quick to a new layout.
It seems some people really duounderestimate character, or actually garou’s system. Garou system leaves a lot of room for creativity. I must admit the first year I played the game i was very scrubby and resentful of the game design but after many experience, I’ve come to understand it and appreciate it. From their i found more success and come to think of the cast balance comfortably.
I used to watch this informative video but can’f find it anymore. Could somebody give me a new link?
Since SRK has new rules on post I wont be able to edit the first post since it gives me an error saying I’m over the word limit. I’ll have to edit the 1st and 2nd post so they are shorter. It’s mainly the first post that’s too long. I’ll have to split it into the second post. I’ll see about getting it fixed by today. Also with the new site format all the posts on the 2nd posts are dead now. That means I have to search for each of those posts again and edit the post.
The links in the second post are dead but the post numbers are still visible and unchanged, so people can still find this info if they want.
I’m glad you are going to edit it though. It’s the best Garou guide I was able to find so far 