Games that require Digital Stick for good gameplay, but don't default there

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I am planning on making my custom joystick for all my consoles from the 2600 to the switch. I notice some Mad Catz sticks had digital actuation of analog controls, by mapping it to LS.

First I’m going to assume unless the game controls in an analog manner, that a fight stick would be better than a pad. Second, I’m trying to have it wired to the d-pad of a real stick. It would cost extra money to wire it to a analog stick, plus the wiring would be more complicated, so therefore, I’m trying to take a survey of games that don’t map to the d-Pad, but should.

An obvious first is all Atari 5200 games that use basic arcade controls, a digital to analog conversion hookup would be desirable, nay, mandatory. (Except for the few games like Kaboom, Missile Command, Star Wars the Arcade Game, Pole Position, and a couple others.) Plus wiring is simple. Because there’s no d-pad/digital stick default, the ONLY wiring would be for the d->a-stick.

Every game up until the N64 would probably play better with a stick compared to a pad. I looked at my N64 collection, no game screamed “digital” except for games that default map to the d-pad, like Killer Instinct Gold and Mortal Kombat Trilogy.

Most PS1 games allowed use of the standard controller if it either doesn’t need the analog-ness or the extra inputs. Most Saturn games use the standard pad unless it uses the analog stick, and even then it’s not required.

Beyond that, I looked at my collection, I thought of only ONE game I know of, that should optimally be controlled with a D-Pad, but is ONLY controllable with an Analog stick, on it’s BEST control option. That’s Metal Slug Anthology for the Wii. The Game Cube controllers requires you to use the analog stick, and all other options are funny versions of motion controls. If that’s the only game that has this wonky feature, I got the solution: the PS2 version of Metal Slug Anthology, which I bought when the analog stick wasn’t quick enough.

Are there ANY games, without knowing my collection, where a digital actuation of an analog stick is vital, yet default analog controls are the norm and suck? It can be download, or retail, for any system from the N64 and up. I’m trying to see whether it’s worth justifying the price of adding a joystick mapped to LS feature. Any game, any genre, any era (and don’t list any fighting games where you can actuate with the D-pad, I’m doing a D-pad hack stick for each console.)

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Well you get no benefit from the LS setting on most console games, in some games it is actually worst.
Also D-pad is “Digital” just FYI

Only a few games don’t recognize the D-pad so you are forced to use LS

The Atari 5200 controller is a monstrosity

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DarkSakul, exactly, I’m trying to find games that don’t recognize the D-Pad, control with the LS in a digital, yet sloppy manner, and would be easier to map the joystick to the LS than to play with a LS. I’m just trying to see if it’s a waste of money to have LS mapping on my digital joystick, or if there are enough games I might want to play where that’s a necessity.

The only title off the top of my head is the Wii version of Metal Slug Anthology, and that’s solvable by playing the PS2 version.

I’m also trying to find patterns, like all of them are on the Wii, or something like that.

A list of titles would be nice. it doesn’t have to be a complete list. Just he ones anyone knows of.

Also Super Smash Bros (any version) suffers if you can’t walk and run in the same game, so don’t include that.

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Sorry to make this thread “Wise fwom its gwave” Since then I found 2 things. one is many different PS2->other system adapters with a joystick that works with many of them, and the other is the services of a Joystick Pad-hacker known as Matthew Gummo. He says he can take a Sony brand Dual Shock 1 (I don’t know if a Dual Shock 2 is not possible, or just messier and more expensive, but if the game doesn’t use analog buttons, then the DS1 will work with them all, especially since the fight stick buttons are not analog.) and digitize the analogs.

Since I need SOME guy to wire a DB25 to a pad-hacked PS1DS1, and the PS1 covers LOTS of systems, I might hire his services for this part if he’s not busy. He told me to keep emailing him every couple of week and he’ll talk price and timing with me. Since it’s probably cheaper to ship a pad somewhere and back once, compared to twice to 2 different somewheres, even if he is a little more expensive than another pad hacker laborer-for-hire, I might as well get it done at one place, save money on a second shipment, and there’s the saying about too many cooks spoiling the broth.

There are literally few other systems I need a wirer for. With Tototek’s PS2-> Genesis adapter, I could fill in a couple last gaps. The Atari 7800 is covered with Genesis and Edladdin. The Colecoviison (assuming there is no roller on the Super Aciton controller needed) also uses a special PCB for fight stick wiring by Edladdin. Atari 5200 has a solution called as Master Play Clone that works in 2 button mode with Sega Genesis. There is a Guy on Atari Age making Genesis-> Intellivision and Jaguar-> Intellivision. I think I can convince a guy who does Intellivision physical pin adapters between the INTV 1, the INTV 2, and the INTV Flashback, I might be able to convince him to make Genesis (assuming it defaults to 2600 mode in an Astrocade) -> Astrocade adapter, which is just a simple pin swap of a 2600-> Astrocade Adapter I seen on a website.

Literally the only 2 pads I need is 3DO and Jaguar, either directly pad hacked, or PS2-> those systems (Porbably pad hack is easier). And Yes I’m aware Tototek has PS2->3DO adapters, but they do not have the multiplayer Daisy Chain adapter. Daisy Chaining Multiplayer is important to me.

I might not even ned that. I have a 3D Zero SNES-> 3DO adapter, but the joystick DOES NOT WORK in one game I have, and I have only 5 3DO games. 1/5 is lousy odds. The game I have that doesn’t work with the 3D Zero is Pataaank, the bizarre first-person quasi-pinball game. The good thing is the 3D Zero has a daisy chain adapter. Anyone know of any other games that don’t work with the 3D Zero SNES-> 3DO adapter or is Pataaank LITERALLY the only game that doesn’t work with the 3D Zero? If one knows all the games, I’d liike a 1 out of X failure rate number for the 3D Zero? If Pataaank is literally the only game that doesn’t work, then, since there’s no 2 player simultaneous, it’s no big loss.

And the 3DO and Jaguar are the last 2 systems i need, and the least useful. I only have 5 3DO games, and 2 Jaguar games. I’ll save those PCB jobs when I get more money and/or come across more 3DO and/or Jaguar games.