I noticed the same thing when I bought third strike. It’s like everyone is too busy talking about how great it is on forums instead of actually playing the game. People talking about how great it is vs people playing it online would make you think it’s two different games or something.
The biggest problem with it is a generational thing, I think.
The OGs like myself that promote games like 3S and ST… don’t play online because it’s not the arcade. We play on home arcade cabinets and such like that. We advocate the games, yes, but we play offline or we play in private lobbies when we do play online.
I agree though, just stick with UMvC3 and don’t let the forum peeps tell you what to play. You like the game, get into whatever you want to get into and give a try, but if you prefer the game, just play what you like. Everyone has an opinion and there’s no such thing as a correct opinion.
I love SF3 even though I never played it in my life. It’s hard as hell, but practice makes sure I rank up and beat whoever online with Yang. But Arcade is solid, and coming off Sf4 is defo a jetlag thing. But still fun.
Kizuna Encounter!
UMVC3 plays like an anime fighter but isn’t as skillful but I would say TvC is pretty close to UMvC3 because its pretty much the same engine but really loose
I’m just gonna stop you and say that Melty doesn’t feature hitstun deterioration. Increasing gravity, limited bounces on walls/ground, and simply properties of moves are used to prevent infinites in Melty.
Now back to the OP. Just stick to UMvC3 if it’s what you enjoy. TvC has SOME similar mechanics, but it’s different overall. Skullgirls is more similar to the older MvC series games in terms of raw mechanics, although it has the advantage of not sucking.
You clicked “disagree” on his post, hence his question.
no one is telling you not to play UMVC3. they are just telling you there is nothing else like it on 360, and for a predictable reason - the mechanics create a very janky game.
you can like a thing, and still recognize that design-wise it a poorly made game and has a lot of degenerate stuff in it. it can be done.
I really don’t care what anyone else thinks and I wouldn’t care if I was the only one in the world who thought this way but, I absolutely do not think UMvC3 is a “poorly made game”. No one is gonna change my mind on that so that conversation can end right there.
I too like the older games (played some in arcades, Dreamcast and emulators) and play them occasionally on GGPO and Supercade, always during evenings. I thank SF4 for sparking my interest again in the older fighters. Actually its on PC where you’re more likely to find older dudes playing old fighting games, rather than consoles.
SF4 is nice too but it feels so different. You are not sure what hit connects and what not anymore. With so many characters and different moves, you learn something new every day regarding frame priorities.
I haven’t even said anything about MVC3 in this thread… I just said that TVC is a worse version of it.
But I don’t understand why people are giving him shit for liking MVC3. This has nothing to do with the topic of the thread and is just annoying. It’s doing more harm than good in any case.
In any case if the thread opener can’t explain in detail what he likes about MVC3 he won’t be able to get any answers.
fair post. The thing is, in germany there are no arcades at all. Machines you put money in, count as gambling, so is restricted for people 18+ !!! So there was never a occasion for a arcade scene to evolve. I would also prefer it to play offline at an arcade, to meet new people which share the same passion for fighting games, to talk about matchups and anything (and to just play offline and hang out). So I understand the advantages of an offline scene ofc.
On the other hand, the old generation has missed the online competitive gaming scene completely. A lot of new players (the 09’s) came from a very competitive wc3 scene etc. they are highly motivated, have the experience to fully study and get deeply into a game quickly while competing with highly skilled opponents via the internet all over the continent!!!
While the old generation has their limited playerbase.
I sometimes have the feeling, that a lot of the old generation players, can beat their neighbourhood and consider themselves good (with limited competition you cant get better or develope your game, so its not their fault ofc.!). Then they try out SF4 online and get their ass beaten by all the new kids and players, who started just recently with fighting games at all, where the old generation player played them for years.
So they think “wtf, how can it be!!!; These damn scubs, it must be the game, supporting scrubs, I lost because I am too good… whine whine”. So they look back at the old games and declare every new game as shit and scrubfriendly. Yeah in the past, everything was better, whine whine. Get over it. SF2 hat those one buttons throws with the shitty dp throw option selects (what a shit, seriously, my opinion), SF3 is all about low into super, the light attacks nearly has no application at all (you cant do anything after 2-3 hitconfirmed light attacks, but for cancel into super). SF4 has some really nice mechanics, hitconfirming out of light attacks by linking into the heavy ones and cancel into a special moves is one of the trademarks of the game for me. Every button is important!!! Where as in the older games, you dont see a lot of light attacks beeing used (I dont say that they arent used at all). wrote too much
You’re very limited in your SF2 and SF3 knowledge and it shows.
MVC3 plays like MVC3. There aren’t many styles of games like the vs. series to begin with and MVC3 adds a mix of how those games worked with the workings of TvC. So it’s really just its own game. You could play MVC2 and Skullgirls which have a similar emphasis on being able to interchange characters between a fight and correctly calling them to help you in battle at the risk of them taking damage. Past that, the games all play a bit different from each other.
prove me wrong
The game that plays most similarly to UMvC3 is probably MvC3
but seriously TvC
that would be quite an ordeal and probably not worth the time investment since you are confused about so many things and don’t seem to have an attitude that would be conducive to learning why you are wrong.
Ya… I don’t know how people think this helps them out. “Let me ask a question!” ten minutes later “FUCK YOU! I DIDN’T ASK YOU!”. It just pisses people off… -.-
I’m sure that SirMixahLot is going to write a scathing and well-informed letter of war regarding SF2 and SF3, but I feel like you simply don’t seem to completely grasp what you’re talking about…
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The older generation of fighting gamers didn’t “miss” the online scene. They were simply around before it. Did you “miss” the smartphone scene because you were around before it? Many of them I’m sure simply prefer to play on cabs or in person with their original games. I’m sure some have tournaments in the larger cities, but I would imagine that most who play it nowadays do so with friends for fun.
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You can definitely get better without competition. It’s harder to gauge, but you most definitely CAN get better. If you spend 500 hours training and perfecting combos you are most definitely going to be better than you were before, even if you don’t have any competition to challenge you to the max.
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To be honest, online gaming is fucking awesome. It allows you to connect to others far away, and constantly have players to play against. This does not make it the best option, especially for fighting games where you have to pull off VERY tight timing on combos. Anything higher than like 30-50 ping basically means that you’re going to be dropping tight combos. In person is the best FG experience. Both on a personal level, and from a game-play view. No lag, the personal experience, hanging out, going (sometimes) outside of your comfort zone. Also, there is no pressure like in person pressure. It adds another dimension to the game. For example, if you watched the VxG the last couple of days, a lot of the Carribean players are really good, but the pressure of facing pros in person and being on stream gets to them and they seemed to be cracking hard under the pressure.
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You generalized a whole generation of FG players. Not going to go much further than that on this subject. It’s not a smart thing to do on a forum that’s widely used by both new and old generation FG players.
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Gonna leave the technical details of SF2 and SF3 to SirMixahLot. I don’t know anything about those games really beyond skimming the surface, so I don’t talk about them like I know everything(I would recommend you follow suit.
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).Hey, everyone is bashing the new games, I am constructing an anti pole for that. I didn’t generalized my post. Everyone can challenge me in SF4 if they want and are located in europe, just wright me a PN, I am always up for good and close matches.
People in this thread are saying that UMvC3 isn’t as good as it’s predecessor. If the people who literally play the game for a living also agree, then it is probably true.
Not sure what else people are bashing on, but you seem to have other problems besides that.
Edit: And yes, you did generalize. You generalized both the new players and older players. You said that the older players are all old fashioned and whiney, and the new players are all super good and better than the older players.