It should be noted that comics with female leads very rarely get into the top 10 on the diamond charts even for popular iconic female characters. Kelly sue who is the feminist writer for captain marvel was pulling in extremely poor sale figures. It would seem that for as much as feminist want more women in comics they rarely follow through with their claims when it counts.
Yeah, say that to Skullgirls. It definitely didnât have the amount of sales it couldâve if it had eliminated half the panty shots and other kawaii anime shit. In the real world, presentation matters a lot. I would love to constantly tell kids about Preacher and Tranmetropolitan but I sure as fuck canât. All the female students my wife has that love anime? Yeah, canât really tell them about Skullgirls even though its filled with bad ass shit they would probably love. Even more hilarious with Skullgirls is the fact that the presentation stopped men from buying it. Dudes donât want to play it because of all the panties.
Its the same with DoA. I can get told a million times that its a great game. Then you see some of the characters in dumb ass outfits with everything hanging out. Like really, those are the alternate outfits? SMH.
If someone is going to let skimpy outfits prevent them from buying a game then thatâs more a reflection on their insecurities then any fault with the actual product. I donât see men urging for the banishment of twilight or the boy bands that make girls/women collectively drop their panties. Iâm always reminded of this study whenever I hear women complain about sexual objectification.
Yes it is.
I have no problem with the approach of âI want to have some X for me co-existing alongside your Yâ. Thatâs great and you should be vocal about it.
But I do have a problem with the approach of âI want all the Y to change to Xâ. That is simply bullying.
just doublecheckinâ âŚ
did we say that razor was/is a journalist?
And what change would that be.
Please explain in detail.
What female characters specifically do feel need to be changed and why.
I swear some of you fuckers just donât interact with regular people. If you canât understand why certain depictions of women could create an exclusionary effect to others, then youâre just choosing to be obtuse. Dragonâs Crown is a great game; regardless of its merit there are people who wont play because of how exaggerated the women are. Doesnât really bother me but a lot of people wonât get the tongue-in-cheekiness of it. The way things look matter. They have some direct effects and a lot of indirect ones. Some of those indirect ones suck ass because it stops me from being able to show shit to people.
Its the same with my the music I listen to; for better or worse Punk has a lot of curse words all over the place. This isnât something I can just play at any school really. So if I wanted to have some music in the background I had to dig deep because not much of it is work safe. Could a lot of punk bands get the message across without curse words? Most definitely. Is this something Iâm gonna fight over? Nope. Will this stop me from spreading awesome things to people who may potentially like it? Yes. Because there are certain things that are off putting. So unless I prep the person, I may just discourage them completely from something they may potentially like.
You can either understand that this is not an issue to you, but it will be for some people. Doing so will make you a more mature person aware of the multiplicity of cultures in your country and creating products to try and reach all of them. Pretending this isnât an issue makes you a fucking parroty twat thatâs no better than the SJW for riding a hard inflexible stance.
Take it from the anthropologist, just showing tits isnât a simple issue in the broad spectrum of life.
lol
I hate to snip a great post, but Iâm about to get long-winded.
I agree with you in principle, @Pertho, but I donât think anyone has a problem with strong female leads (who are covered up) standing alongside the more traditional depictions*(no matter how ridiculous their costumes may be)*.
Hell, OG Cassie Cain is one of the single-most badass characters in all of comics and her costume had her completely covered from head to toe*(you couldnât even see her EYES)âŚ
She could go toe-to-toe with pretty much every top-teir martial artist in the DC Universe, but none of these feminazis or their beta followers bought any of her books, DC panicked, and shit all over all the things I loved about her character.
I loved that time Superboy kept trying to hit on her, and she spends most of the issue not saying a word(she was a mute for YEARS)*, and beating his and everyone elseâs asses.
For all that female empowerment shit they talk, they sure have a hard time backing anything that actually does empower femalesâŚ
I wonder why that isâŚ
Now, BACK TO VIDEO GAMES.
Fuck Jeph Loeb. I donât even know what role he played in the Spider-Woman thing or what his current position is with Marvel, but Iâll never forgive him for The Ultimates 3. I donât even give a shit. Fuck Jeph Loeb.
you have to do that in bold text , man.
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Iâve been saying that shit about DoA for years. DOA2:LE is still one of the best fighting games Iâve ever played. But Team Ninja have been turning it more and more into some softcore porn game. I still donât know why DoAX even exists.
You look back at DoA5âs advertising campaign.
http://www.gamesthirst.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/deadoralive5banner.jpg
âIâm a fighterâ
What does that mean exactly?
http://i.imgur.com/y5heP5r.jpg?1
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You canât take the game seriously when the devs promote a game like that but then fill it with playboy bunny and bikini DLC. Whatâs funny is back when Itagaki was running Team Ninja he got mad with modders removing the clothing and Tecmo would threaten legal action on modders. 
Team Ninja even tried to pretend that the skimpy outfits were integral to the characters, the example being Christie uses sex as a way of getting close to her victims. Okay, fair enough, but how do you explain a 17 year old female who was brought up in a ninja clan, in a remote village in rural Japan dressing up as a playboy bunny?
I got accused of being a feminist and a religious prude for bringing it up on the tecmo boards lol. MeâŚ
Iâd really like to know how people like Kayane feel about this sort of thing, do opponents at EVO purposely pick the skimpiest outfit to put her off her game? :lol:
A lot of people donât like gay people, a lot of people donât like black people, a lot of people donât like words or images that conflict with their religious beliefs or their political values and while these people are allowed to think and feel however they want I will not dictate the terms of my life based on their preferences. The fact that SRK is primarily a fighting game site can be interpreted as exclusionary to all other gaming communities but I donât see wiz dropping the heavy focus on fighting games just so COD fans can feel more welcomed. Therefore if adult women are pulling fits all because a fictional woman is portrayed sexually then that has more to do with their projected insecurity then it has to do with me or anyone else having to conform to their level of comfort. In other words artistic expression doesnât end where their feelings begin. I donât know what kind of people you interact with but if someone came up to you during a lunch break and said"the food youâre eating offends me please change your diet and never bring that kind of lunch here again"I donât imagine you will say"sure whatever makes you feel more comfortable after all its about what you want".
The analogy is wrong and doesnt quite suit whats actually happening here. This isnt about playing loud punk music on a open street with no regard to people passing by this is more like saying we shouldnât sell punk music at all because some people are offended by it. Censoring and banning a cover before it even reaches the market because some styled socially aware feminist have a problem with it is no different then a puritan preacher banning books because he believes they will turn people into deviants. I said this above to razor and Ill now say this to you, what gives feminist/SJWs the right to police what I do and donât buy with my money.
You are talking about the most extreme end.
Oh boy, in relations to the comic issue in regards to that cover:
What is the point of this post?
What the fuck are we talking about? If your shit ainât related to gamergate, get it the fuck out of this thread, b. Feminism and anti-feminism doesnât have one shred of a fucking thing to do with gamergate. Get it out of here. Talking about that bullshit draws attention away from what is actually happening and what actually matters (read: the reform of video game journalism as an industry and maybe even journalism as a whole).
Drop that dumb ass topic and take it to the lounge or something, man.
Holy shit, nor just ran a story in this and it is hilariously offensive to one end. They even interviewed quinn. It just ran on all things considered.