He has a lot of ways to get in, you could spam air bon voyage and that’s a viable way to get in. 
I’m usually in the air most of the time when I’m playing him, mixing it up with hell dives, bon voyages, fireballs, and dive kicks. If you’re having trouble getting in, you can always force them to come to you. People can only take so much of jump, fireball, fireball, fireball for so long before they get annoyed and have to come after you. Firebrand is at his best in my opinion when people are trying to be aggressive with you, it makes it super easy to catch them with bon voyage.
yeah air bon voyage has so much frame advantage its very good on block. only shitty thing to me is that firebrand does shit damage, and one combo and he’s dead
Yeah those are 2 of his very few disadvantages. That’s why I’ve started running an assist I can set up the unblockable with, at that point it basically becomes 1 long combo that will kill most of the cast. I’ve been running Ammy 2nd, and after ending a regular combo into unblockable it’s doing like 300ishk with the first combo and then after the unblockable it’s like 600k I believe with a DHC to Ammy. Good enough to kill most of the cast.
I think Viscant was right in his interview on Wakeup SRK, I think Firebrand really should just be taking advantage of the unblockable as much as possible. I’ve tried to play him fair with the team I’ve been playing with the majority of ultimate, but after switching in Ammy into my team, wins are coming waaaay easier. Unless you feel cheap doing it, then there really isn’t a reason that you shouldn’t be attempting to set it up when you have the chance. Especially since setting up the unblockable after regular bnb’s pretty much takes care of his damage problem.
If slide was safe on block…Oh goodness!
not sure if i missed the clarification on this, but have we confirmed that this DOESN’t work with hard tags into doom? just double checking because I had a very difficult time emulating this success with doom OTGs
I think hard tag Doom works on different characters but haven’t tested extensively.
But I should only be looking at characters that get knockdown like dormammu right? Because I want the otg? Doom has no move that can capitalize on the spinning state… Think only spencer can match the 4 frame speed
If I get some time I’ll do additional testing with Doom. ^.^
I played around with this a while back. Not reliable unfortunately.
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I made a quick video about firebrand unblockable setups I use.
Any questions ask away.
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I like that setup. Push blocking the flare/round harvest doesn’t do anything to this setup?
Push blocking doesn’t affect firebrand at all. Push blocking reduces chip damage.
Thank you.
I know this was a little while ago, but as someone who uses Firebrand OTG fireball assist on his team (not with Vergil though), don’t neglect its other properties. It’s pretty unique in that it acts like the fighting game equivalent of very slowly crowd surfing at a concert, so you can do a move you normally couldn’t combo after and they’ll still be carried on it and ready to be hit again afterwards (I use this with Ryu’s L tatsu in my Ryu BnB). As far as using it as an actual OTG, then yeah, you pretty much need to have him in Luminous Body or something.
For what it’s worth, Firebrand’s OTG assist (with or without Luminous Body) can be used in a traditional OTG sense off Vergil’s Helm Breaker, provided you hit it early enough. Enemies get scooped up at a low enough angle that it’s easy to follow up even if you didn’t have a Round Trip charged up.
Man Firebrand is too good, Ive been running akuma/fb/sent and virgil/fb/sent. I think Virgil/fb is really cool, they have a good DHC and some thc xf into unblockable set ups. Assist both help each other a lot, Virgil gets helm breaker + otg sptfire into full combo, FB gets c.hp + rapid slash xx mp missle into combo. Just lots of quirky synergy. A while ago I saw some video of a guy showing off some FB lvl 3 tricks, anyone have that?
Does anyone know if Firebrand has any combos that start with instant overheads and works on people who aren’t enormous like Sentinel, other than cancelling j.L into Bon Voyage while in Luminous Body? I’m trying to step my offense game up and I assumed he didn’t have anything like that but I swear I saw a post in some other thread recently around here that said he did (and I didn’t reply to it because I had somewhere to be). Figured I may as well ask you guys.
hit them into an assist, or xf it into falling s. You can kill them in one combo from j.l xf
So, has there been much discussion on the TAC possibilities after Devil’s Claw? I’m running Thor and say I land a combo with fb and then Devil’s Claw, hell dive L and then TAC UP. I can then Air dash down with Thor, Might Spark H, Mighty Spark M and then land Thornado for around 750-800k, all for one meter and builds about 1.3. This is probably only the tip of the iceberg too.
Anyone here working with this?
wait how are you getting a TAC to connect off of elevator L? doesn’t taht bring you to the floor?
My bad, Hell Dive. Edited in op.