Further tweaks:

I do not disagree.

But we already have an entire roster of balanced characters. It is very possible we will see another iteration of this game in a year or two. Sirlin mentioned a desire to add more characters in a few interviews. It would be relatively cheap and easy to do this. No need for new graphics or to try and add anything which is not already in the game. The game is already balanced enough that low tier characters have a more than decent chance against top tier.

In my Claw example ; Claw’s super is pretty hard to use effectively. It rarely comes into play. A double flip kick super would clearly be superior in terms of a super, however removing his Forward Flip kick weakens how how plays a great deal without meter. In my Dictator example he loses some aggro options for some zoning. And they would have most of their budget to spend on just balancing the new characters.

If Sirlin does want to add to this game, this is the cheaper and easier and more reliable way to do it.

My post is more “If they do this, this is how they should do it” as opposed to “they must do this or else”

Don’t forget he has an overhead and has a fake fb.

You’re crazy sagat should do less dizzy after already having dizzy damage be nerfed twice? tk should do less damage? wow GTFO.

Balance wise so far everyone seems fine even akuma (who at this point is not broken or too powerful or whatever he’s just really really good.) I doubt akuma will be banned or whatever at any point the only overpowered thing about him that may be a bit too over the top is the fact that his regular fb knocks you back to the corner.

Funny shit you think hawk is the worst in the game. Play against me or any other solid hawk. You’ll see why hes so scary. Hes not worse than o.hawk considering he has like all of his normals (except splash which was one of the few reasons to play o.hawk).

He never had an infinite. You could dp him out of it. Why people think its an infinite is beyond me.

Having two cyclones is dumb.

Give him two dives. One safe, remixed one and one like old ST. having that knock down was his ONLY shot against some characters without a pyschic dp (like against honda, sim, GUILE GUILE GUILE AND GUILE).

He needs a better hitbox on his dp. the match vs guile is so dumb. all guile has to do is not lose his down charge and hit low forward. hawk cant even dp his low forward because hawks dp hitbox sucks and guiles low forward hit box is retarded good.

they need to make vega’s new drop move after the wall dive fall down faster. right now i’m not seeing a lot of usage for this new move aside from baiting flash kicks.

also, they need to make cammys standing hk better. that move is near worthless.

I’m aware of the fact that ST has old characters (I play many old characters on the side myself). I’m also aware of the ISMs and Super Arts in 3s. The reason why I said that the idea was retarded is because you want to there to be different characters with new supers and moves which would be completely retarded. The time it would take to make all these new changes would not be worth it at all and in a way be a waste of money. The reason why I said “what is this, KOF?” is because you referred them as EX characters. Sorry, if you want different play styles for the same characters then go play A3 and 3s.

Yeah give the character with some of the best normals, throw range, specials, and walking speed a new better move!

Hah, this thread is funny.
Reminds me of the ST:HD general discussion thread.

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Burst.

If the Hawk player has perfect execution, there is no way to escape the negative edge trap. The dragon punch would be blocked and you would get thrown anyways.

C-c-C-COMBO BREAKERRRR

Yeah being almost the only character that has a 1 hit kill that doesn’t start with a crossup is a great concept.

TK dizzy may have been nerfed, but there’s no reason why he has o.sagat dizzy on tigershots.
Not saying sagat is broken (he’s definitely worse than o.sagat) but i don’t think he needs an easy 1 hit kill, however likely it is to land a j.HK or not.
Tigerknee may be fine, time will tell but gat is on top of almost everyone tier list right now.

Also, your mom.

Fake edit: i just checked and new sagat can dizzy with it too. Maybe it’s not that bad. n.sagat can take like 95% off it anyway.
REAL EDIT: And o.sagat can do 99%.
Yeah ok maybe i overrated it since it hardly seems to have an effect on o.sagat’s game. You never notice how outrageous some ST combos are until you have a proper practice mode.

Clearly Claw is underpowered. He needs a fireball. An air fireball. One he can do off of walldives. One he can do multiple times off of one wall dive. :rolleyes:

seriously never thought claw was as strong as people think he is. people just seem to freak out everytime he touches the wall and/or dont know how to block

Walldives aren’t the reason Claw’s so strong. He has ridiculously good normals, and his walk speed makes throwing an excellent decision all the time. Not to mention the fact that he has ridiculous throw range.