You talking about viper’s HP thunderknuckle?
Blunt, thats real shit though. Fei Long is broken as hell. That shit showed me the tier list is retarded. Honda is top tier in this game only because he destroys a lot of mid-low characters. Honda has bad matchups though. Fei long, has none. Whats fei longs faults? Seriously?
He does badly against Air throw characters, especially guile, because they can NJ air grab him out of CW (and guile can boom then NJ to cover ex CW). Fei is a bad example though, i do actually believe hes the best character in the game, i made that conclusion when i saw inthul a year ago at ECT, thats probably why Mago picked him up too.
Its the whole way CW works right now, its got alot of properties that make it godlike, gives them free 50/50s on block, and against characters like us it feels abit more 75-50 because of expin trading with normal burnkicks and such. HK has invincibility on startup, EX goes through FBs, on hit it links into a beefy combo, it has a ambigous crossup on crouchers, its hitbox its weird and hard to hit once its fully started up, it recovers quick so you cant NJ it (eat a burn kick) and im going to stop there because its making me depressed.
Then you throw in his godlike focus, 3 frame normals and command grab, simply in just description of character and on paper he sounds too good to be true. Obviously hes controlled by humans who make mistakes and ultimately there are ways of dealing with his shit, Juri just doesnt have those ways. E.g. as Abel Breathless is godlike on Fei who doesnt have far armour breaking moves (not even his ultras) niether does he have a jump that moves him far, you saw how KDZ just let it rip on Inthul and it just worked (right through his super at one point).
yeah, i was referring to Vipers HP thunder knuckle
Mmh, even Sako said it after beating Filipino Champ in a money match where he couldn’t use Cammy, using Fei: [media=youtube]Rxw3sIYlKsg#t=13m38s[/media] :wgrin:
lol thats champ saying fei long is “cheap”, i know his annoying voice when i hear it.
Hehe, okay. a top player anyways 
Yo! HK goes through fireballs! I saw that shit happen vs Sanfords Ryu. that shit made him tight. lol. He just shook his head.
Inthul was tight. Moons, a Fei Long Player I was with was like “He knows that doesn’t break armor, but it was a mistake…he probably saw a means to punish him and the end of the match in his graps and let it rip”.
I really gotta lean more matchups. i wont clog this thread up with Fei Long Takl, my apologies…l
lol i was just playing a fei online, i forward dashed under CW, i done know if this has any practical implications though.
Whenever I see a CW, Juri’s c.MP says “no”…lol. I personally wouldn’t wanna dash under it, but I’m sure it probably has it’s uses
Heh, yeah. Whenever someone tries to use gimmicks like that to bypass footsies, I automatically just throw out the appropriate move (usually far s.MK, c.MP, or c.HP) to say “no”.
See. You would think that right? But what about of fei long is 1/4th a screen away? He could rekka, c hp, or cw. Any of these. Most can’t react to this. At the point where cw hits he’ll get the counter hit. You gotta hit him mid flight.
I’ll take your word on that, since I’m no expert. If that’s the case, then we obviously don’t want to be in that position. What positioning puts Juri at the advantage? I’m guessing we either want to be around 1/2-3/4 screen away, or right in his face.
Juri Players: In Medium Kick we trust.
i noticed against Honda, on a safe jump u can OS lk pinwheel and it will make his wakeup lk buttsplash and ex buttsplash whiff, you can punish the lk buttsplash when it land and make him burn a meter on his ex version (and you have the added bonus of catching backdash). Only problem is that this setup loses to ex headbutt, if you OS the lk pinwheel your jumpin misses, your pinwheel comes out, and he punishs, i suppose you need to read this and just block after jumpin and dont OS. It becomes useful when hes meterless and works off of pretty much any untechable knockdown, but the demon is exheadbutt, i dont think we have a move that beats its startup.
Full screen to half. Half you cant recover from a fireball in time to block, but full screen he can absorb. I suggest slowly pushing him into a corner with fireballs. Throw a low, dash up throw mid. Forces him to block and slowly pushes him back. He will get hasty and do a cw. But once fei’s in…game over.
A strange thing happened during a match up with a Chun player earlier tonight. I was right next to her and she activated her Ultra 2 and I press what I think are the buttons are to do Juri’s parry during the activation. However, an ex-pinwheel came out instead and completely beats her U2.
I’m not sure about specifics on doing this and I need to test it in training mode but I’d thought I’d put it out there.
Kikosho is basically a large fireball, and expinwheel goes through fireballs, thats really all there is to it lol.
My Fuhajin Leg Raise is broken. I tried to kick kikosho and nullify it and it didn’t work. Ha.
Technically, its really many large fireballs. Kick faster man
On a chun-related note, it seems Chun’s Hazanshu BnB Combo doesn’t work on Juri?. HSU > cr.lk won’t link because of our sexy hitbox. Even chun’s far standing fierce is over our heads … erm, goes over our head while crouching.
Bad puns, I know.