Probably because of this:
Apparantly an army of squirrels is more powerful than any other force in the universe.
but then again, she has a special place in his heart. Or more precisely, his sexual fantasies:
it’s also been heavily implied he statutory raped her
(Wait. People still had hope for this movie after they race-lifted the Human Torch to get a token minority in the movie? Even though that worked oh so well last time with Jessica Alba.
See, people, this is what hoping gets you.)
On to more important issues: …Is that…Spiral? Also, it’s kind of weird to see Emma there instead of Jean. Same with the lack of Ororo, then again I suppose it’s just a “peek” rather than free-falling into the lusting abyss that is Wolverine’s mind.
Gods damn. Who hasn’t that slut Wolverine slept with at this point? It seems like the only people that are safe are maybe the girls he adopts as surrogate daughters like Jubilee or Shadowcat or Armor or, technically, X-23 and if Squirell Girl’s there, I’m not so sure. Artemis Christ, the only Marvel characters sluttier than him are probably Iron Man, She-Hulk and Hercules. [/slut-shaming]
Wouldn’t be surprised if Dead Girl showed up in there, though I guess if she’s a classy enough corpse for Doctor Strange…
As for Squirrel Girl beating the shit out of Thanos, Doom and other characters really powerful characters like Fing Fang Foom, meh, yeah, it’s mostly a joke. That said, I always thought that if they wanted to explain “seriously”, then they could just act like she’s secretly Asgardian or something given I’m pretty sure there’s a god of squirrels or something in the Norse pantheon.
Besides, squirrels are nothing but more agile rats with fluffy tails. She’s just one small step away from channeling Infection Lass or The Host and giving people the plague while she has her minions Zerg-rush people.
No I tapped out before that, even.
lol you know she’d do some freaky stuff.
I assume he has more respect for those women, and thus they’re probably in a much better part of his psyche.
(That kind of speaks of ill of Psylocke then. Unless that’s Revanche…in which case, it’s arguably even more fucked up.)
Oh, no. Spiral being there isn’t weird because of the “freakiness” factor or even weird because she’s unattractive–she isn’t, four extra arms aside. It’s just weird to see her there since Wolverine’s well aware that, even as powerful as she is, she’s basically Mojo’s slave, which just makes it seem…sleazy to lust about her.
(Also, I can’t say I’m comfortable lusting after anyone who can crush diamonds.)
Meh. Putting too much thought into this, though clearly this new Fantastic Four movie has the opposite problem. [/not completely off topic]
I really do have to wonder why so many damn comic book movies insist on focusing on boring-ass origin stories though. Like…why can’t you just handle that shit in a timely, self-contained flashback?
That’s Jessica Jones aka Jewel.
you think it’s weird he is sexually fantasizing about a sex slave?
dat healing factor
Going off of what The Dammed said (too lazy to quote it right now) about the change in Johnny Storm’s race, I have to say that it is the most brain dead decision I’ve heard in a while. The Fantastic Four are one of those things that people accept as not having a token character because its been that way for so long. As a young African-American male, I was actually more offended that they included a black Torch simply because they’re not telling the story correctly. I also thought it was dumb that Heimdall from Thor was made black, due to the fact that Thor is derived from Norse mythology, but they get a pass as those are otherworldly/divine beings.
For the guys and gals that still have hope for this doomed movie:
For Fox this is just a Hook.Line.Sinker.
Hope you enjoy your movie 
Walks out laughing hysterically
(Right. Because Fox or big companies in general have ever cared about what people think in most instances. Fox already a) clearly doesn’t care about the franchise and b) knows there will still be some people dumb enough to see this in theaters anyway.)
Besides destroying any hope that other people may have had, this thread just reminds me how long it’s been since I’ve read (American) comics with any regularity. Pretty sure the last time I was “up to date” on things was all the way back to the stupid Civil War stuff, which was apparently in 2001.
While I don’t regret it, especially since comics seem to have only become sillier while trying to take themselves (even) more “seriously”, it’s just weird to realize that, geez, it’s been 13 years already. The fuck.
For the record, I’m generally fine with “race-lifting” if it’s done tastefully (read: not done loudly publicly as blatant money grab), which it usually isn’t. Although I haven’t watched it still, I’m generally fine with the race-lifting done in Thor because a) they’re aliens and, far more importantly, b) the writers (or casting director) used the opportunity to do more than add just a single black person awkwardly. For instance, they didn’t have to make Hogun (?) into a Japanese guy, but they did. I vaguely recall them changing some other people into “races” that they weren’t in the comic books, but all I know is that it wasn’t done the way of the typical lazy “race-lift one person into blackness or other American minority and call that a win for equality”. Granted, it’s arguably better than nothing even if the race-lifted person is usually a minor character to boot, but it still just smacks of egregious attention-whoring and nothing else.
This new Fantastic Four is even worse about it for a couple of reasons. Besides the unfortunate implications that someone else already pointed out of it being the black guy whose abilities actively change his color, whoever wrote the terrible script went out of their way to keep Sue white. That itself it also has horrible unfortunate implications, even before the fact that they made Sue hate science off the bat when she’s only really ever been not as interested in science as Reed is; then again, very few people are interested in science as Reed anyway and maybe initial comic book Sue straight-up hated science–initial comic book Sue, like most early comic book women, were kind of horrible characters though.
For the record, I don’t have a problem with adoption; quite the opposite given that I think more people should (be allowed to) adopt rather than adding to the overpopulation the planet, but that’s a completely different issue. It’s just…even more forced to have Sue not be a black woman if her brother is suddenly black and not the “adopted one”. If this movie is supposed to be “gritty and realistic” to the point of having any majesty sucked out of it, then someone missed the memo about how it’s way more likely to have a white family (be allowed to) adopt a minority child than have a minority family (be allowed to) adopt a white child. It’s not like it’s impossible, but the odds are, like this movie, hardly fantastic in the good way.
Just thinking about how easily they could have it made less egregious that Sue is still white just goes to show how lazy and stupid this whole endeavor is or at least seems. Maybe the writer(s) felt that making Susan and Johnny’s parents black is a (very small) step forward, which I guess may be true given their dad is a scientist. It just seems like they didn’t choose a more “sensible” route because they were either completely lazy or so utterly worried about people being up in arms about miscegnation that they were scared to commit to anything substantial. Then again, those aren’t mutually exclusive, so maybe it’s both, which is even worse.
Regardless of who is race-lifted or not, the movie seems pretty doomed–heh–on what we know besides that. Race-lifting rarely ever ruins a movie unless it’s more usual white-washing done in such like The Last Airbender or, as I’ve heard, Cloud Atlas; race-lifting rarely ever saves a movie either. Even then, race-lifting tends to just add insult to injury rather than making or breaking a likely already shitty film. It’s not like making Kingpin/Wilson Fisk black in Daredevil is what made that movie suck despite all the initial complaints about it; it was all that editing, the weird interpretation of Bullseye and rather stilted acting from the main characters.
If they really wanted to try to appeal to the largest group of American minorities, then they would have made both of the Storms “hispanic”. It would still be a likely token-only appeal to minorities that wouldn’t save an otherwise stupid movie, but it at least be a change from the usual “Hey, black people! We care about you as shown by us making this worthless change to a character that doesn’t actually mean anything! Progress! Please see our movie instead of Soul Plane 2!”
TL;DR - I don’t mind race-lifting, especially since a lot of time you should take acting talent over looks. It’s just that acting ability rarely is taken into account when race-lifting–see: Jessica Alba in the second set of Fantastic Four movies. It’s also a lazy, overused way to make a film look “equal” by just it adding a token visual minority, whom is almost always black, to a film that has often has no significant impact one way or the other other than generate buzz. At best, it’s naive; at worst, it’s insulting; either way, it doesn’t ultimately doom an otherwise good film nor save an otherwise bad film, so I tend not to actually care about it in most cases.
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-BVs-KCSiA
Interesting in-depth interview with the director and screenwriter of the film: http://collider.com/the-fantastic-four-movie-details-josh-trank/
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/the-fantastic-four-teaser-trailer-with-commentary-109246554892.html
I…might give the movie a shot.
Doesn’t look too bad actually.
Looks watchable.
Torch and Sue are not siblings anymore?
Sue has vitiligo.
Blaze is actually black? I thought he just didnt have full control of his powers yet…
:trollface:
Still have zero interest, doesn’t look train wreckish from the trailer, but that’s not exactly a compliment either.
That trailer showed nothing. Nothing at all. The half second showing of Ben Grimm didn’t fill me with hope, either.
Anybody got that pic of doom from the first page? I want to experience the disappointment firsthand.
Hence the big bold letters spelling out TEASER 
oh ok…so they teased nothing…
Looks shitty and I’ll completely avoid watching it.
I’ll stream it, don’t get me wrong. But I also watched that Wonder Woman pilot, just to see how bad it was.