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So here’s the question. How much video did you “hide” where u2 whiffs and you ate 300hp for it? lol
Seriously though, I know you’ve been a big proponent of u2 but would you actually use it in a tourney, other than the obvious use vs chun and maybe dee jay, akuma?
Matchups where I think U2 obviously trumps over U1: Honda, Seth, Akuma, Gen, Juri, Chun, Dhalsim, Bison, Cammy, Guy, Blanka, Fuerte, Vega, Hawk, and Adon. The beautiful thing about U2 is that even if you don’t hit it, it automatically shuts down most of your opponent’s air game. This essentially gives Zangief complete control of the space around him, no matter where he is on the stage. I can’t wait to see what it can do in the upcoming revision.
When do you ever catch fuerte? And Adon?
Look man, I’m not buying it. I haven’t seen any high level Giefs use this shit with money on the line except Vance against Chun… Your yomi game has too be soooooooooooo on point.
And on the topic of Hawk i think u1 is WAYYYYYYYYY better in that matchup. your bound to make him whiff an spd at some point, 720 in his ass.
How many high-level Zangief players are there again? It gets hard sometimes trying to keep track of all of them 
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Ok forget “high level” gdlk giefs. Lets say anyone reputable playing gief on these forums with MONEY on the line and i don’t mean just a 20 pounds friendly…
Hey I’ve hit a few of those and it was a good feeling but the punishment for missing is 5x worse than u1.
It’s really simple question, would worstgief use u2 in a real money match against ryu? If he would then I’ll go home and shut up.
By the worstgief, nice u2 catches…
Yes, I use ultra 2 in tournaments against ryu, sagat, chun-li and ken. And adon. Thanks to my friend slizzle I have found ultra 2 is most useful against sagat as you can do it on reaction to kara tiger uppercuts.
Just started using ultra 2 on hawk as well, I think it is more useful than ultra 1.
i think u2 is more of a personal preference rather than a matchup specific thing. i personally think its semi useless and don’t use it EVER. more of a guessing thing where as u1 has some sneaky setups and is easier to hit even though both aren’t easy to hit in higher levels of play.
If you’re not using U2 against El Fuerte you’re lost in the woods. It’s also pretty nice against shotokans. If they whiff a Dragon bunch you can nail em with it.
I don’t think any one player has the right to call it useless; that’s just ignorant.
Some of us like it and work it in, some of us don’t. A lot of us try it for an evening then profess it’s utter uselessness.
i’m sorry to tell you this man, you have to open your eyes and see the truth. Theres no top players that use that outside of two match ups… blanka, and chun and just maybe el furete. Outside of that no one will ever use for anything. I mean, the recovery is terrible, the grab box is terrible, the set up ability is terrible, you literally have to guess literally and if you guess wrong, muder she wrote. I understand that your saying that you found uses for it, but what most of these guys are saying, is at HIGH LEVELS OF PLAY, not casuals or you and your boy down the block whose pretty good, they are talking about tournament level set ups for it, and punishment. Why do you think capcom is making it better lol, i mean really capcom usually don’t change something like that unless, it really is bad . you might can use it for the sheer idead of putting fear in your opponent but at high levels they process situations a whole lot faster then normal people ( critical thinking ) and process a problem and solve or a would be problem in a manner of milliseconds literally bro.
I mean, i’m sorry but u2 OUTSIDE OF 2 MATCHES 3 MAX is ass. Why would you punish a dp with gief’s ultra 2 when you can just walk up whiff a cr.lk and u1 or jump then u1 or whiff a grab then u1. Ultra has 0 to 1 frame start up, that punishes alot of shit with 520 max damage in mind think about that, while the other is 450 max or maybe less . I play some high level people, on a consistent basis and if you think u2 will work on them, then you must be crazy… ie flashmetroid, ryan hunter, simplyph33r or miami joe, ssf2jeff the best players in florida that places high in tournaments and trust me man, that shit does not work. It just won’t work on them it’s a pure guess and those guys are solid players, it might work once but no lol not more than that
Whatever happen to Itabashi? He had a monster Gief and hes not even in SBO.
Fist off that “sentence” needs a few more periods and “literally guessing literally” doesn’t actually mean anything… Your post is full of spelling errors and grammar quirks, so I’m going to guess you wrote it without much thought.
I play with people that go to Evo, who aren’t just “the kid down the block”. Some of them are among the best players in Canada in fact. Ultra 2 imo <— this means" in my opinion" for the unaware. That means it’s how I feel and isn’t really subject to statements like “you’re wrong”. Now that that’s out of the way we can continue. Where where we? Ahh yes Ultra 2. It’s not dependent on guessing, at least no more so than Ultra 1. If someone jumps over you or tries to cross you up; Ultra 2. If someone jumps in on you (that never happens…); Ultra 2.
The largest advantage I find though is that is suppresses parts of a characters game. No more random Dragon punches or mashed out tiger knees. It also gives you the ability to jump in on opponents and not get anti-aired.
This is why I like it. I’m not saying “U2 is the best!”, as I still use Ultra 1 in some cases. Just take what you want from this diatribe and move on.
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WorstGief’s matches against Ryan’s Ryu just highlights everything that’s made Zangief so shit right now.
Are you sure your playing good people???
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Maybe this is my mistake, but you do know theres that ultra only grabs things, that are considered air-borne right ? So, that means you can get AA, by balrogs cr.hp, his st.mp, guiles cr.hp or backfist, so, what do you mean you can’t get AA???. If you are getting hit by random dragon punches, that’s your fault but then again, if your playing good people why are they doing random dps??? Anyway, if you want to use U2, then so be it, i just think u1 is more practical, for punishes since, you can pretty much punish anything that’s -2 and up easily.yeah, i mean, use what you want but you can punish alot more consistently with U1 then U2 which is pretty much one of the most important parts about zangief … maxium punishment. For a matter of fact, i did a video showing everything that u1 can punish, and other punishes as well
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Obviously :rolleyes: I didn’t think I had to break it down to that point for people here. Anywho I’ve said what I had to say. Peace out on this topic (Ultra 2) and thanks to everyone who gave their two cents 
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I’m trying not to be insulted by this, so maybe reconsider the way you pose that statement in the future after someone professes the facts such as I did.
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Too much jumping methinks.
Also, Rose’s ultra 2 is a joke.
didn’t know u1 beat her u2, that was nice. i think she’s one of the more annoying matchups for gief, especially with her good dash speed. i agree about her u2. basically, it’s free damage and that’s bullshit imo. really sux for giefs cause after that knockdown, we’re trained to go for the mixups and those balls just stop us dead every time. also if ur both low on life she can just do ultra and basically we have no chance at winning, bullshit.
Nerf stick’s a coming to that shit. I wouldn’t have an issue with it so much but for some odd reason Rose can load up TWO of these a round.
This matchup also makes me wish Gief had fireball invulnerability on kick lariat startup. Her fireball almost seems to slow down when it reaches you.
I’m also looking at you Blanka, Seth u2, Rufus u2