I see what you’re saying. I’m probably couldn’t have done that much better. With that said, maybe I’m missing something but, it doesn’t seem like you tried to walk into mp range. That’s what I would have tried.
well, I tried to do that in the second set of matches and he adjusted after I hit him twice. It became extremely hard to get close to him afterwards.
This was later that night after they left lol. At this point I had a few drinks already, so I played a little sloppy haha.
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He’s not psychic, he just has super sick reactions. The first time I played him in tournament was in some ST tourney finals where my Honda had his O Sagat down to chip damage, and I was at a range where I’d done fierce headbutt for chip a million times without anyone ever punishing it (maybe 1/3 screen), so I did fierce headbutt and he immediately dragon punched me with O Sagat’s huge fierce dp for the win. Don’t test his reactions, because he won’t fail that test.
Against Rufus there’s really only one place you really don’t want to be, and you picked that spot to stand in. Just inside his crouching fierce range his footsies can do alright against yours, he can throw out crouching fierce and stuff on reaction to some of your laggier ones (like standing mk), and he can antiair you pretty well. Even there I think you can still do alright because cr./st. jab/short buffer ex hand and standing strong are so buff, but in any case that’s where Rufus wants to be and you shouldn’t give him that advantage. You want to be either outside of his cr. fierce range so you can antiair his jumps well and deal with his cr. fierce well with your st. strong, cr. jab (buffer jab hand into spd!), neutral jump fierce, standing mk, kick lariats he can’t really pnish whatever, or you want to be right in on him.
I know keeping proper spacing is hard against Justin, he’s very good at that. But more than a few times you got beyond that spot up closer to him, and then you either blocked and let him push you back out or walked back out yourself voluntarily. Can’t do that.
I like your cr. mk usage.
He does not jump at all against gief though, that’s what makes it so hard. but I tried green hand buffers a lot and he knew what I was trying to do lol. I give props to the guy, he’s fucking great with Rufus. I never felt so helpless haha. I also played Floe where I lost to him twice but nearly perfected him one round on his Sagat.
nice vids man! I like you Gief, one think I found playing RickyO who has a similar style of rufus is to sand outside of c.fp range and lk a whiffed one or time lk/mp while walking in to stuff things. IDK if its smart but it kind of worked for me. thx for the vids
hmm, sounds like something I can try. We were all unprepared for his Rufus because no one here really uses him. We all pretty much stick to one character i.e. me=gief dagger_g=guile leviathan=akuma and so on. Hopefully I’ll get another chance to play against him before he leaves.
I wish I could show you what I did to Marn’s Viper lol
Nice vids. I might try that cr.mk now and then for a mix up in my footies. Just a little too much jumping in that first match. I think you jumped a lot less in the second match and had it much more under control. I usually try to limit my jump ins against Ryu because I know he’s looking for it. Especially once he has ultra.
Dude, you’re right. He never jumped once. He’s just so good with his spacing and his normals. He knows exactly what move to throw at what range. Also sucks that when Rufus has meter, he can pretty much escape any wake up mix up for free with ex messiah.
Actually that’s not true. You get free safe meaty cr. jab/short option select sweep and free safe jump splash cr. jab/short o-s sweep on waking Rufus.
Damn, looks like I need to learn these option selects… I still don’t really understand the option select sweep or how it is performed. Are you going to have a tutorial up soon?
Yeah, next couple weeks or so. But you don’t necessarily need option selects against waking Rufus; if you time your meaty crouching jab, short, or fierce splash early enough, you’ll be able to block ex messiah, super, and ultra, have dp whiff over you, and jab/short him out of his slow focus backdash. The option-select sweep is just there to beat his regular backdash once he realizes that all the rest of his options are worthless.
How exactly do you get the timing for doing a safe jump?
Kinda off-topic for this thread, but speaking of Rufus, I realized this week that short-jumping fierce splash over a waking rufus will not cross-up the majority of the time. I pretty much lost in a local ranbat to a Rufus because of that. I wasn’t intending to fake a cross-up, I just wanted to meaty, like you just wrote. I just ate wake-up ex-messiahs and snake strikes.
Go into training mode and practice recording dummy Zangief knocking down Rufus, doing a splash as early as possible on Rufus’ wakeup while already holding down-back, and then continuing to hold down-back for a few more seconds. Then switch dummy Zangief to playback so that you’re Rufus, let him knock you down and jump at you, and input ex messiah with soon-as-possible reversal timing. If you made dummy Gief jump early enough and made sure to make him block, Gief will block your wakeup ex messiah. If you didn’t, just go back and re-record dummy Zangief doing splash with an even early timing. It’s not very hard to time, though.
Hey Jamgief…I can’t really tell you how to beat Jwong because I can’t beat him myself. What I think you should have done is…used the MP a little more. This poke is so good against Rufus. It’ll even beat his cr. HP at ranges it doesn’t seem like it would. I swear I’ve seen Itabashi near-spamming that thing. You can do like 4 per second. Also if he tries to whiff punish it you can do obnoxious shit like a lariat in between them. Once hes scared of that you can do walkup jab SPDs and start mixing up. Also short jump SPD beats Rufus standing HP. If he has an EX stock I would not jump at all. In fact Jwong generally will not let you jump at him, that’s one reason I think he’s so good.
Well, he told me to use the standing strong against him. And I did, and got stuffed lol. But whatever, I didn’t know the matchup, and it was cool getting to play against him.
I’m going to be taking more videos soon, stay tuned.
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yeah, never mind. Wasn’t really video tape worthy, especially with the laggy hotel tv lol.
Hey UltraDavid can you explain wtf happened in this video:
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At 1:37?
Like why does Ryu never uppercut out of Itabashi’s nonsense?
I think by the time you realize what side to block it on your already out of the mindstate to input an instant srk? IDK, dudes just hold up on me all day so…
What do you mean? I don’t see anything unusual at 1:37.