black hat? pssh
more like bitch wigga from thor
weakass not even Michelle Yeoh in James Bond tier sidekick
You can sum it all up with one word. Money. It doesn’t matter if it’s good, it matters if it makes money. Peoples attention spans are getting shorter and shorter by the year. Movies, music, art, etc. all have to adjust to this. Everything needs to be dumbed down. That’s how you have to sell it.
When you put too much money into things they usually turn to crap. Everything starts becoming streamlined. The vision becomes more and more cookie cutter. They go for the same tricks, the same feel and it all starts feeling too similar.
See: Peter jackson in the Hobbit as opposed to LOTR
You gotta go where the starving artists are. Easier to find the people coming at it from real love. Of course there’s still a lot of crap with them too, but at least they’re trying there. And even in the mainstream there are people who have that love, it’s just harder to find (and probably edited out by producers!)
Umm…usually the opposite is true. The fact that it still is good says something for PJ then because most people can’t make a 30 second trailer without running out of interesting content, much less a movie over 90 minutes.
See: Everything related to Bay’s transformers.
ah yes, isn’t that the most universally appreciated aspect of a movie?
“it wasn’t that good, but at least it was 4 hours long”
“yeah most of the movie was pretty ass but that scene where he was floating around in his mind and then when he was going backwards into consciousness was fucking sick”
I’m being harsh on inception, I think, seeing as I enjoyed it a bit BUT you get my gist.
This isn’t really a discussion, but just some random thoughts for the OP.
I have seen maybe 20 movies that came out after 2000, only three movies in theaters (Lethal Weapon 4, Gladiator, Three Ten to Yuma). I find myself often going back to the safety zone of 80’s and 90’s film because there really are some masterpieces in there as you point out. Terminator 2 is perhaps my favorite action/Sci-Fi movie. Casino is probably my favorite film and I find it really easy to watch even several times a year.
I liked movies like The Big Lebowski, but it didn’t change my life (perhaps my sense of humor is off). Robocop is still kind of cool if only because it somewhat predicted the future.
Ocean’s Twelve is probably the worst thing I’ve seen in modern memory. Couldn’t even finish it.
The Dark Knight is probably the best movie of the prior decade and a true masterpiece, but I absolutely hated Batman Begins and The Dark Knight Rises.
Even an average movie like Ronin seems amazing compared to what I might have someone tell me I “must see”. The Departed was also really well done for what it was. I think the industry just ran out of ideas. I kind of feel bad for kids born in the 90’s, a little.
I just watched Inception last week. It was way better than I thought it was going to be. I liked it even and it took the next few days for me to figure out what I didn’t like about it.
Also, for the sake of stupid lists - 80s/'90s (not really in order, but kind of):
Casino
Terminator 2
Goodfellas
The Falcon and the Snowman
Rumble Fish
Aliens
Buffalo 66 (yes, really)
Hellraiser II
Fargo
Least favorite movie I remember seeing in the last 10 years: Garden State
Question for OP: Do you think Days of Future Past Worth seeing? I haven’t seen any of the X-men films but really like that storyline.
man i only watched hellraiser 2 for the first time recently and shit is fuckin dope!
pyrolee still hates everything…good to see nothing has changed since I signed up here as a punk ass teenager.
The Big Lebowski being some uber funny film must be a white thing.
Anyways best movie for all time shall be Snatch…fight me
No, it’s good, but it is basically the US version of Lock Stock. Same with The Departed. Originality points stricken for me.
How do you figure that Snatch is American?
If you can’t find good movies released in recent years then you aren’t looking hard enough. Try and look beyond what’s being delivered directly to your face.
I’m also sure you haven’t seen everything worth watching from early decades either.
I thought The Hunt was really good.
Solaris! Fuck that movie was good.
It’s too true that we don’t get general stories like we used to. I think that’s what he meant by Into the Woods. Everything now is some sort of short sighted drama about the death of someone that was important and how we should change our lives entirely to live up to the ideal they were setting forth. I’m surprised we don’t have movies where everybody lives anymore. Even Pixar is killing off characters all the time.
Just saw Cocoon for the first time ever…yeah, fix your sh*t noobs…Ron Howard raping you hard.
It’s about the way movies use color and cuts and the space of frames to tell tell the story. A lot of putting a movie together is gonna be style and preference and how you want to do what you feel needs doing. More of it than you would think is very objective, it has to do with the way our brains take in information. Many modern movies fail very hard when it comes to basic techniques of visual storytelling.
i’m here to make you mad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMHv2Gd743s
don’t forget all of these amazing models created weren’t used and/or covered up with CG in the final version of the movie, heh heh heh.
[details=Spoiler]there could possibly be a resurgence of those types of modelling and techniques in the indie scene once 3d printers start being worth a damn.
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You don’t have to go if you don’t want to.