I can’t see any of the dedicated players on the board dropping him.
I’m 70/30 at the moment as far as predictions on nerfs go, I’m siding with the sensible nerfs this time. All the outcry’s are from 75% of people who can’t play the game. A good player with any sense can see Fei Long’s main advantage is the disadvantages of the other characters, and not the character himself.
I’m hoping Capcom see the sense to bring around 4-8 characters up to speed. They have to accept the fact that people will never be happy - period. Giving another batch of 3-5 characters a blast at the top will just become the same problem next year.
If Fei Long get’s nerfed and Akuma stay’s the same, I’ll be pissed though.
i know. just the way things are going right now, fei is getting a lot of hate at the moment
most of it is bullshit too. some dude in one of those request threads was implying that rekka combos did too much damage.
lol, my jab short hit confirms with gen do more damage.
also, i cant see anybody that has been playing him switching. im looking towards all the players that just pick him because he is strong. i just hope fei isnt reduced to vanilla status where he hit like a baby and everyone else was taking half health
One problem I see though, is that Fei’s game is built really well upon the foundation of good footsies and corner carry leading to strong corner pressure, so I doubt capcom would change much to do with his +frames on most stuff tbh, but because of the pressure they’d be under (Fei won Evo so he needs nerfin NAO obv.) they may more likely go for the damage or health/stun nerf.
I wouldn’t really care if EX Rekkas was returned to what it was, but I’m missing Super’s HK CW :’(
Looking at it, Fei’s DPs all do better than average damage for each version, but I guess that was to make up for him not really having the same FADC Ultra comeback status of other characters, but still, that may be a start.
Then again, thinking about it now, they always do random shit, so we’ll probably end up with no invicibility on any non-EX FK, Rekkas all go half the distance they do now and don’t push back on block or have anywhere near the same corner carry on hit, CWs will all be -2 or more and don’t break glass any more, focus attack will be gimped, Super is 9 frames of startup for 320 damage and tenshin is 18 frames startup.
I don’t remember all the Fei changes since SF4 other then the HK CW nerf and the +1 on st.lp. Don’t remember having damage boost or nerf either or it’s just bad memory. I really doubt Fei will have more changes, he’s a solid footsie heavy character with no FADC ultra comback factor. I don’t get why people complain about his damage tho… hit confirms bnb does around 168 damage. A lot of characters do more. The only strong combo he has against most character is flame kick fadc chicken wing. The cl.mp chicken wing combo is character specific, and i agree that one is a bit too damaging, but most characters can hit around 350+ damage with 2 bar as punish… Once charge characters get buffed, Fei will go back to top to mid-top tier.
I’ll most likely stick with fei, I can see them lowering the damage of his ex dp, at worst changing his frame data on CW and rekka to make them unsafe.
well, to be fair, every dp FADC combo, and post CW combo does amazing damage. like really amazing
which is why i wouldnt be at all suprised if the damage got nerfed on CWs and DPs, or if you could only combo from ex CWs or something.
i dont see how the wall carry would make much difference either way, nerfed or not. when i play fei, people usually just back themselves to the corner anyway
I talked to the head of Capcom during the SFxT panel and I broke it down to him how Fei became top tier. He agreed with everything I said and I also noted that Fei got nerfed damage wise for Super. It wasnt much but it was still a nerf. I also mentioned to him the biggest buff Fei got was having EX rekka safe on block. +6 on jab isnt that big as it was only used a total of 5 times from all the Fei Longs who made top 32 and that was 15 players as per Sabins count. Now Im not saying that its not a buff but most seasoned Fei players completed the Reka link to get the character in a corner.
That Said speaking with Starnab, Evans and Inthul they all agree that he feels a little to strong now. They also dont like so many players jumping on the band wagon because they get lumped into the dissscusion about “Fei being cheap” I can see Fei being nerfed as everytime i was next to Ono I heard someone say “please nerf Fei” I see his DP getting nerfed.
EVO was sooooo much fun, got some matches with juicebox (he is super nice btw), and met a lot of professional players. This community is soooo awesome, everyone is so nice and willing to help/talk, it was simply awesome. Being used to XBL trolls (namely people who use the anoniminty of the internet to spread hate), I was worried there would be a lot more hating on other players, or all around negativity, but there wasn’t. I’m going to be writing a blog about it later tonight probably to list all of my experiences. I met Jason! out of all the people there we wound up in the same pool helping each other along the way. I think I weird’d him out with my drunken stuper in the casino on saturday though lol.
I want to say something important though… me playing online exclusivly has given me soooo many bad habits. This being my first major and second tourney ever have made me relize the importance of getting out there, meeting people, and gaming and learning with them. If you want to get better, getting out there and playing offline is the only way. Nerves weren’t a problem after the first match (played a fuerte that made it real far, took one match but lost two consecutivly). Played a guy from arizona who had 3497289749283742 people routing for him… and man was that intimidating (i’m now investing in some noise canceling headphones), I made some good reads, but fell into a pattern and couldn’t get out of it, leading to a neutral reset. After it was all said and done I lost, but they gave me, “wow man what a great set.” and latif told me “good game man” which was good to hear after being knocked out.
I will say one thing… I’m going back next year and hopefully making a bigger wave.
As far as the nerfs go, I’d say that fei’s DP’s will be getting nerfed and his 120dmg hp being dropped to 100.
Higgins it was cool seeing you as well. Your drunk moment on Sat was cool. Remember I was with my team and they were all enjoying themselves LOL. I told you man going to events is The way to go. It would have been cool had we met in losers finals. I learned a lot seeing your play. I play a very vanilla Fei not many mix ups or gimmicks like fake a throw and really do a DP off a block string. Also Higgins TE stick artwork is amazing!!! Summer Jam is next Higgins in August and then Seasons Beatings In October.
Cool! I’ll try my best to get out there, between school, work and getting married in a month I’ll try my best! Keep me updated! Thanks for the game play compliments too! If we would have met in losers finals it would have been epic. hahaha mad people were jocking my TE lol, especially with that detachable joystick.
Glad you had a good time, hopefully I can muster the funds and guts to drag my ass to EVO next year. Sitting at my computer for 2 years watching it makes me feel ashamed and left out.
so im playing fei exclusively (again) until this rebalance comes out. i havent had a chance to really “feel the power”. i want a taste before it possibly goes away
Another Fei player from the UK, Shinji, told me that he’d found that forward throw was leaving him at difference distances afterwards. After trying it a couple of times it turns out that if you forward throw from the corner out to midscreen, the opponent is left about a whole training room square further away. Might be handy to know.
yeah, thats been happening since vanilla. i found a meaty tenshin set up way back in the day from a forward throw, and if you threw out of the corner, they’d be further away making it useless. theres also certain chracters that will occasionally give you a random distance mid screen. dont remember which ones. like a said it was a while back
on a side note, my fei sucks now. ive completely forgotten how to open up a turtle