I can agree with that, but there’s no real reason to lock someone up for 5+ years for getting caught with an amount for their personal use. Yeah, the dude screwed up, but it shouldn’t be a life-changing punishment that is handed down.
Hmm, I’m surprised that this stuff is getting written out these days. No wonder why TPTB are desperate to control the internet, if enough of the peons actually read this stuff and get angry, something might happen!
Drug possession should be prosecuted on intent to distribute, not personal usage.
I don’t think I’m alone here. Even hard, dangerous drugs. The addicts possessing these are not so much the criminals. The criminals are the people giving them to them.
Now of course, there’s exception, like people robbing for drug money, and yes those should be punished. But I wonder, rehab or prison? What’s the biggest cause for the robbery – the person or the addiction?
What’s wrong with selling drugs exactly? It’s a business transaction, they are businessmen. It’s the addicts that are the criminals because they create the market. They also do stupid things because they are addicts. If you believe in freedom and adults being able to make choices on their own consent, the only crime is when a drug user uses the drugs and then performs some criminal activity. The mere sale of a drug can’t be a criminal activity because it’s not directly harming anyone in any way, any more so than selling alcohol creates a drunk driver. We know the drunk driver is a criminal, but why is the distributor of alcohol somehow a criminal for that act?
If, hypothetically speaking, I could be granted a wish: tomorrow all drug dealers are gone or tomorrow all drug users are gone, which one do you think would actually stop the drug trade? As long as there is a market, more drug dealers will show up to provide that product. But if there are no drug users, the dealers have nobody to sell to and they will disappear on their own.
The liberal mentality of making excuses leads to drug addicts and the consequences of that behavior. If they were punished as they should be, if you believe it’s a negative, they’d be forced to get their lives back in line because they wouldn’t be coddled. No rehab or any of that other stuff, just a good whipping or something.
And that actually aligns with my knowledge from my time in the DA’s Office. These drug laws are just another excuse to abuse minorities, and minorities are stupid enough to buy into it, because minorities in general are pretty dumb.
I’m not talking white and black here when it comes to addicts. I’m talking all addicts. Don’t play the race card and say, “White privelege makes white users the victims.”
And victims of whom? Themselves? Yeah, they made that choice to start using in the first place. But more often than not they’re not the only ones involved in that decision.
And what’s the difference between users and dealers getting punished? You mean other than the fact that one makes a profit off of someone else’s addiction and suffering?
Note I’m talking about hard drugs here. I’m of the belief marijuana should be legal and decriminalized in all ways. But hard shit like meth? Get it off the streets.
Let’s not pretend drug dealers aren’t out there causing violence in communities and on an international scale. Drug users range from the just trying it to the dependent, so you’re going to punish those who use it recreationally the same as those who cannot live without it?
You want to remove the illegal drug trade market, or at least control a lot of it, then legalize it. Have the government put in strict regulations to protect the user and society in general. The ones who can’t live without it will still find their ways to fill that need, like alcoholics do, but at least the casual users can rely on a system meant to protect them.
SRK not even worth trolling with this, too soft. Though ignorance is how big business and government screw the people. The systems just get more complex and more layers are added and they all got each others’ backs so a single individual can’t do anything but mind their own business and focus on what they need to do to survive.
Hopefully I will die of old age before shit will really hit the fan.
Who put a gun to their heads and told them to start using drugs? Drug dealers aren’t giving their drugs away for charity, they are charging money. If people have the money for blow it was a conscious decision for them to start using. Drug dealers and drug makers are simply catering to the market.
People bitch how they want freedom so badly and nobody should be able to tell them what they can put in their bodies. Well Islamic countries ban alcohol and probably nicotine, and your average American gets red in the face complaining how oppressive that is. But then that same American turns around and whines about things like meth or cocaine or even marijuana, why? In terms of addictiveness, nothing beats nicotine. In terms of damage to the body and behavioral changes, alcohol is the worst. But those are legal.
Logically, why is there just an arbitrary line? Some of us can handle a lot more alcohol than others, yet it’s legal for everyone. Realistically, women should be banned from consuming as much alcohol as the average man can have, if it’s “for the protection” of the public. It should be straight up illegal for pregnant women to drink or smoke, because of the harm it does to an unborn baby.
Where is the protection slant? Seems to just disappear when it serves someone’s own agenda.
It’s like you people think someone is innocently walking around and then suddenly the big bad drug dealer forces drugs onto them for free, and the poor little drug user has no choice in anything. Bullshit.
Most societies around the world had no problems with drugs. Opium was common in China, and meth is just an antecedent to that. Or maybe it was cocaine, I don’t remember, but something is related to opium.
The War on Drugs is a tremendous waste of money and resources. And it destroys lives—for the people in countries like Mexico and Columbia whose lives get torn apart because some Americans want those drugs. These drug addicts are awful human beings, just think of the little brown children in Mexico and Columbia, how is it fair to them?
I never said that, you’re putting words in my mouth. I already stated that they are victims of their choices.
How many cigarettes can kill a person on their first usage? Nothing beats addictiveness like nicotine? Do you know anything about meth? Coupled with the fact that’s it’s far more dangerous, both to manufacture and consume, than cigarettes, and I can already tell you your argument is full of shit.
Once again, basic reading comprehension would be crucial. I again never said this. But peer pressure does play a role in drug consumption, but I never said it was the dealer.
It’s like you people read well-conceived arguments and then fill them with your own words to try to poke holes in the argument.
Source or you’re full of shit.
So the drug cartels are BETTER human beings than the addicts because the ADDICTS are what drive them to kill people at the border? Are they really thinking about the ADDICTS when they’re doing the shit they do?
This is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read in my life. If you ate lead at the border, would you seriously blame the addicts?
Your arguments all suck, that’s why you can’t address things cohesively. No, telling people you made a great argument doesn’t make it so. Hell you know what, I’ll do that too, you suck my arguments rule, you’re too dumb to get on my level and try to fill it with your own words to poke holes in my perfect arguments.
Where are YOUR sources? Where are YOUR sources that the drug users are the victims? Where are your sources that opium was never used in China? Where are your sources that the drug cartels aren’t in business because drug users buy drugs from them?
There is so much literature on how addictive cigarettes are and how the damage starts with one cigarette, but there you go even denying that. Liberals always change their arguments every few seconds.
What posts are you reading? I never said that cigarettes weren’t addictive. Fuck man, literacy, please utilize it if applicable in your brain.
I said that meth was more addictive than cigarettes. I did not say cigarettes weren’t addictive.
SOURCE: WATCHING MY MOM TRY TO QUIT SMOKING SEVERAL TIMES AND FAILING, ON TOP OF ALL THE RESEARCH OUT THERE THAT YOU CAN’T READ, BECAUSE YOU’RE A FUCKING ILLITERATE LATE TERM ABORTION APPOINTMENT MISSED