Fate/Unlimited Codes aka?

synix09 · February 9, 2009, 4:12pm

Check out this Lancer combo at 3:37 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm6054904

On a side note, I just found out that Berserker has an infinite that reminds me of Satsuki’s.
At 3:32 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm6047339

H-F_Blade · February 9, 2009, 4:39pm

That is one crazy Lancer combo. And yeah, the Berserker combo is like Satsuki’s because of the meter rebuilding.

CrimsonDisaster · February 9, 2009, 6:00pm

H-F_Blade:

Yeah, he can do damage AND carry you to the corner fairly easily. His activate combos aren’t too hard either and they do really good damage. His grail super has stupid range too. I can’t tk his j.236b consistently though. I try 2369b but I’m getting a super jump almost every time, which is bad news. I haven’t really practiced tk j.236236b but it looks great for adding damage after activations.

And yeah, I also noticed that he’s the only one (I think) that can combo 2b 5b repeatedly into each other. I picked up Lancer because aside from how hilarious roflcopter combos are, I was hoping to learn what his weaknesses are since I haven’t played against my friend who uses Lancer in a while.

But most of his moves are pretty safe. I noticed that Bazett can sway under his 5b but doing that on reaction is impossible because of how fast it recovers, so it’s pretty much a blind guess.

re: TK j236B-
just hit the button later- instead of doing 2369+B, do like… 2369~B. I do the entire motion a bit slower just to remind myself to hit B late, lol.

re: 5B
IIRC Lancer himself can 214 under his own 5B and if he has meter it’s not a terribly unsafe idea to 214x > A/C RC your way in.

fallot · February 9, 2009, 7:59pm

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Guardian · February 9, 2009, 8:27pm

All of the following is imo from the matches I’ve fought against Lancer:

Caster and Gil have to make attempts to zone him; once he’s in range for 5B then they’re in trouble (everyone is pretty much in trouble at that point) unless Caster has a stock or Gil has some chains stored. Zero Lancer, for whatever retarded reason, matches up pretty well with him, and can punish alot of his poke attempts. Lancer can hang with him up close, but Zero Lancer wins the range game because of safe rekkas and his ridiculous command backdash. IF Kirei can get in Lancer’s face, then Kirei can make something happen. Shirou can zone him pretty well too with knives and j.C.

So now I have a question again: Who’s better, Lancer or Archer?

dj_de · February 9, 2009, 10:43pm

Both are good. Archer might be “better” if you take in account how he can do unscaled Caldabolg for less meter used and a generally easier combo than Lancer can for his combos

synix09 · February 10, 2009, 2:19am

Well, if I had to choose which one will win, I’d choose Lancer. But I would probably say Archer is more fun to play.

H-F_Blade · February 10, 2009, 2:32am

There are a TON of Archer vs Lancer match videos out there. I would say Lancer is better but only marginally. As stated above, Archer does more damage for less meter and he has good pressure if you’re crafty enough. Lancer has better spacing, safer moves, meter draining combos, and he feels easier to play overall.

Gasaraki · February 10, 2009, 8:04am

So how about anti-Lancer tips as a Bazett player. I can’t beat HF’s Lancer at all. I think I may have one a round, but never a match, and they’re rarely close. As he said, I have to practically guess just to get in.

Guardian · February 10, 2009, 8:12am

That just might be a really bad anti matchup for her, just like Saber vs Caster, Gil vs everyone, etc. I remember one of my friends saying that one of her dashes is invincible, but I don’t know much about her to know which one he’s talking about.

Gasaraki · February 10, 2009, 9:50am

yeah her 46C dash ducks mids and highs the entire time and is invincible completely during a small section of it, but even then Lancer 5B is way too fast to dash under it on reaction AND still have time to punish.

Guardian · February 10, 2009, 1:07pm

Button Shouldering can NEVER be allowed for this game. It makes unprorated supers INSANELY easy to do (just tap ONE button for super, no other movement necessary).

H-F_Blade · February 10, 2009, 1:23pm

I know that feature exists, but I never took it upon myself to actually use it let alone fiddle around with it. I think the only button I’ve ever mapped was A+B+C and that’s it. But yeah I can only imagine how much easier it would be for supers. At the same time, I’m not surprised that such a feature exists. Remember, the game was made by 8ting, who also developed the Naruto GNT games on Gamecube. Supers in that game were done with the push of a single button and it was part of the default control scheme.

SuicidalGrandpa · February 10, 2009, 3:28pm

Doesn’t ‘unko’ mean poop in japanese?

Gasaraki · February 10, 2009, 4:23pm

yes, that’s the joke of the title.

dj_de · February 11, 2009, 7:13am

http://stashbox.org/397942/1234313974437.jpg

So apparently there’s going to be a PSP(?) release of FUC that includes more costumes like CASUAL RIDER

Master_Chibi · February 11, 2009, 7:21am

oh fuck my ass that’s awesome

also im going to start cutting myself because i want to play luvia k thx

Checkerpatch · February 11, 2009, 7:46am

She’s not that bad. If you manage to hit the other person the combo takes off 80% and isn’t nearly as hard as most character’s B&B’s.

Master_Chibi · February 11, 2009, 7:48am

We’ll see.

My execution is total garbage.

D:

H-F_Blade · February 11, 2009, 9:00am

I like the idea of extra costumes, but for a separate release? Ewwwww, now that’s baloney. They should have been included in the original PS2 release. I also dread the thought of playing this game on a PSP pad. <.>