Fatal Fury/King of Fighters Continuity

As others have said, it’s just pretty much two timelines (3 if you want to count MI though), AoF->FF and FF until 3->KOF. If you REALLY wanted to I’m sure you can find a way to fit Last Blade in one of those two.

Yeah, but it’s not like it would really matter in a new Fatal Fury for two reasons:
1-different continuity
2-Garou takes place in another Southtown anyways.

There are quite a few different timelines and realities in the SNK universe:

1) Main universe:
The original SNK universe, most SNK series fit here. KOF is retconned out of it in a separate timeline after KOF 2000.

–Samurai Shodown
1786: SS5/Zero
1788-1889: (in order) SS1, SS3, SS4, SS2
1790: The Neo-Geo 64 games
1791: SS Sen/Edge of Destiny
1810: SS: Warrior’s Rage

Tenka/SS6 is a non-canon dreammatch, but it is set shortly after SS5/Zero.

Its connection is proven because Hayate’s ancestor (and Todo?) is met by Kyoshiro in his SS5 ending.
Also, of course, by Kim in SS Sen.

The SS RPG is probably non-canon.

–Last Blade
1863: LB1
1864: LB2

Zantetsu is the ancestor to Eiji in Art of Fighting

–Art of Fighting
1978: AOF1
1979: AOF2
Early 1980’s (1984?): AOF3

AOF2, is officially, the first “King of Fighters” tournament and was created by Geese.

I remember hearing somewhere that AOF3 is exactly 15 years before Buriki One, but I’m not sure if it’s canon.
Most of the events of AOF are considered canon to the alternate KOF timeline; in that history, all the events are bumped up 13-14 years in order to take place concurrently with Fatal Fury, and to make Ryo and Terry the same age.

What’s funny is that in this timeline, Mr. Big starts off as the Southtown Boss and is significantly older than Geese, but eventually is deposed and made into Geese’s lackey.
In the KOF timeline, Mr. Big is YOUNGER than Geese, and tries to depose HIM but constantly fails and remains one of Geese’s lackeys. :lol:

The anime is obviously, non-canon. THANK JESUS.

–Fatal Fury
1992: Fatal Fury 1
1993: Fatal Fury 2
1995: Fatal Fury 3
1996: Real Bout Fatal Fury
1997: RB Special
2006: Garou: Mark of the Wolves

Fatal Fury Special is a non-canon dreammatch…simply a re-telling of FF2.

Geese dies FOR GOOD in Real Bout in 1996 and DOES NOT COME BACK IN THIS TIMELINE, EVER. This is the main thing that separates the main universe from KOF.
Nightmare Geese in RB Special is just that…a nightmare–a ghost from the past that Terry fights in his dreams.

Originally, Real Bout was moved in the timeline to 1998 in order for the events of KOF 97 to fit the canon. This was later scrapped.

Real Bout 2 is a non-canon dreammatch.

Garou is set 10 years after Geese’s death.

Originally KOF 2000 set-up the setting of Garou: Mark of the Wolves, as a good deal of Southtown was destroyed in KOF 2000 thanks to the Zero Cannon. Thus, while most of the old parts of the city were struggling through reconstruction, Second Southtown went through a huge boom of expansion and attracted most of the attention from investors and developers (why sink money to rebuilding old, broken-down areas when you’ve a bunch of hot, new real estate prime and ready to work with). Thus much of the original Southtown was passed over and Second South became the new central hub of the area.
That’s why all of Garou takes place in the 2nd Southtown, not the original.
Of course, KOF is no longer part of the timeline, so the new explanation is that the city fell into disrepair after the power vacuum left by Geese’s sudden death, and when Kain took control, he moved to Second South. Just because.

The anime movies are obviously, non-canon.

–Savage Reign and Kizuna Encounter
circa 2060’s(?)

So yeah, this is just a guess on my part. Chung is 82 in Savage Reign, and he idolized Terry when he was a kid, even receiving one of his caps.
So that gives about a 65-75 year leeway from Fatal Fury.

2) KOF (2-D)
All of the non-dreammmatch KOFs in the main series apply here. The stupid Kyo PSX rpg is probably canon, too. The EX games on the GBA, probably aren’t.
Also everybody stopped aging after KOF 97, apparently. Except in specific cases when they want a character to age a little. Like Bao starting puberty between 2000 and 2001. Or Terry becoming Garou Terry in between 2002 and 2003.
Yeah, they don’t really care about continuity anymore.

3) KOF MI series
All of Falcoon’s queer-mo stuff. MIRA is obviously a dreammatch. I assume Hanzo in MI2 is non-canon, but if he is canon, there damn sure isn’t any explanation as to how.
Apparently, Falcoon supervised the anime, but it is non-canon to the series. So I guess it’s basically pointless. Alrighty then.

4) Days of Memories
For those who aren’t aware, this is a dating-sim series (they’re up to 9 installments already, last I checked) which re-imagines KOF, Samurai Shodown and a few other SNK series characters (mostly the females) in an alternate universe in “normal” society (mostly in a high-school or college setting).
And no, they’re not THOSE kind of dating sims.

5) SvC Chaos & Neo-Geo Battle Coliseum

They have their own stories that don’t fit into any other canon, so I guess they qualify as their own.

And yes, SvC Chaos and NGBC are connected together. Athena and Mars People’s stories in NGBC prove this.

Damn nice info! Someone rep this shit :smiley:

Damn well everything I was confused about has just been put into proper context in one post. Good stuff.

I dropped some green for that post. I made a post in the KOF forums about this same subject awhile back. The whole SNK storyline looks real clusterfuck from far away but up close is very put together.

What KoF did Billy Lee appear in? I remember seeing him on poster and that’s about it.

Whoa, I thought RB Special was a non-canon dream match, too…?

KOF 97, along with Mary and Yamazaki…

That’s Billy Kane, not Billy Lee.

Done and done.

Yeah, so did I, did it even have a story? It feels weird that the numbered game is the dream match and not the one saying Special tbh. Anyways, I think that even if 2 is a dream match, there are some canon things in it, at least the Jin brothers staying with Kim and Tung anyways.

Well, what about the World Heroes and And Fighters’ History series, what timeline do they fit in? Since a few WH characters are in NGBC and a few FH characters are in KOF MIRA? And if SVC Chaos and NGBC are connected, then WHERE are the CAPCOM characters in NGBC? Why didn’t a few of them appear in the game?

lol I just looked at it now :lol:…

SNK did not create World Heroes or Fighters’ History, they may own them now but that wasn’t the case back then, which means that they don’t fit in anywhere. Capcom characters don’t appear in NGBC for obvious reasons, SNK didn’t have the Capcom license anymore.

I already knew that. It just would’ve been cool if a story was made up to somehow tie them in, that would’ve been awesome.

Billy Lee was SUPPOSED to be in KOF XII, but they didn’t have enough time to complete him (much like everything else in XII).
He’s actually still in the code for the console versions, like a lot of other characters, and people were actually speculating that patches or other DLC for KOF XII would make the characters available over time…but yeah, it doesn’t look likely now.
He’ll probably be in XIII, though.

Only a tiny part of it is canon. There is no tournament, and most of the characters don’t do anything at all pertaining to the main plot.

The only story in RB Special involves Terry being haunted by Geese in his nightmares, then being challenged by Krauser to a duel. After losing to Terry for the 2nd time, Krauser takes his own life.
There’s other stuff, too, like post-possession Chonrei and Chonshu training under Tung, but the Terry/Nightmare Geese and Terry/Krauser battles are the only important parts.

As for Dominated Mind, I don’t know if Alfred and White are considered canon, but even if they are they don’t affect the main Fatal Fury story at all, so I’ll just say “maybe” since SNK really likes Alfred for some reason.

World Heroes is only canon in the NGBC/SvC timeline. The reason for this is because SNK Playmore didn’t get the rights to the ADK stuff until a couple of years ago.
In fact, the World Heroes canon is actually very important to NGBC since the main plot hinges on Goodman and the WAREZ Corporation obtaining Doc Brown’s time machine as collateral when he applied for a loan at a bank owned by WAREZ.
That’s why characters from the past and future are able to appear at the Coliseum.

Fighter’s History isn’t owned by SNK Playmore at all–it’s now owned by G-Mode which gobbled up Data East some years back.
Mizoguchi in KOF MIRA was special one-time appearance because Falcoon pushed like hell to get him in the game since Mizoguchi was his favorite character growing up in the arcades.
The only other collaboration was the Fatal Fury Special Vs. Fighter’s History Dynamite game, which was a side-scrolling beat em’ up ONLY for (sadly) mobile phones and only (sadly) in Japan

Uhh…their invitations got lost in the mail.
Yeah, let’s go with that.

Wow, sounds almost like the anime, where Krauser kills himself after losing to Terry. Is there an online resource that talks about this stuff, because the in-game endings for RBS are crap and don’t deal with anything serious. (Terry going out on a date with Mary, and Joe getting pissed about it…via static profile images and text bubbles. The End).

And, why doesn’t Krauser appear as Nightmare Krauser in RB2…even if it is just a dream match, he’s supposedly dead.

SNK confusing their own dang storyline.

I think from the Memories of Stray Wolves video, except that he made a mistake, Krauser did not suicide in RBS, but after FF2, making both RBS and RB2 non canon (by retcon at least).

Because Geese doesn’t either, and if they did they’d be too ****ing broken.

Broken characters? In an SNK game? that would be crazy talk.

Indeed, but the ones broken at that level are usually the bosses, not the playable characters which is what I meant :stuck_out_tongue: