Ok some good arguments now Muttonman & Hadoking. It seems like its a very character specific issue really, and they are still tweaking all this stuff.
But I think a throw button would be more detrimental to the game system, so I’d rather they fix character specific stuff with specific changes to those characters if necessary.
Making back & A not be a throw though would prevent a choice of throw direction unfortunately too, which might also feel bad.
They are already doing way better than equivalent games like Pocket Rumble or Divekick did at their crowdfunding stages (pre-cancellation in Divekick’s case ofc), but the problem is they really need some big investors to get any where near to their Fig goals … and scummy investor laws prevent people like me (in the UK) from investing via Fig, so it’s a bit of a tough one.
Tier list amongts patrons (who are those who plays the most outside the devs, but not necessarily the best players) had Midori and Geiger on top, the rest fairly equal with some claims that Grave was also A+ or that Rook was bottom tier. In the latest build Midori and Geiger got some slight nerfs so for now they’re looking pretty balanced.
Val isn’t broken- you’re just at the start of a journey. (val is broken -> (figures out the answer to her most obvious stuff) -> Val is bottom tier and needs buffs against x y z that it seems impossible to deal with -> (discovers some really obscure tools she has for the most glaring problems) -> now you know kung fu)
Yeah that’s pretty much my feeling. I felt Midori and Geiger were maybe slightly on the top of the rest prior to the latest build - and maybe they still are - but there’s already very good balance and nothing I’ve seen that’s clearly too good or too weak.
Yeah, Rook seems a bit weak but very unfun to play against. Geiger is really good; amazing air movement and control, great buttons, mind-blowingly great super, decent specials. Midori was interesting; scary as shit when close in Dragon Install, but kind of simple to lame out, only issue is the diving unblockable.