All this over a desire to have someone say “Yes he needs CE Low Forward.” This is ST, people. Deal with that. He’s not getting the poke back, and it’s not what’s wrong with Guile in the Vega match up, it’s what’s wrong with Vega. He’s got everything and you see that in future iterations of Capcom games, he’s nowhere near as stupid. Case closed. Bad match ups happen, play the game, the character, pick someone else, or move on. Sucks to be Guile sometimes.
Well said.
I think Cammy fights Vega pretty well, if I learned anything from my HDR sessions with Ganelon when I lived in Maryland. You can always counterpick or just hope you know the match up, but it’s just wasting your own time and energy to do write ups about a poke that won’t come back in a game you’re playing. I think we’ve all gone over the things that were overlooked in HDR’s rebalancing, but that train has come and gone. Now if only someone would freaking tell me how to kara-flash kick off standing roundhouse in ST.
Yep, well said, and don’t expect anyone to win an Evo with Guile without it, I myself will sure try to though. Going against Afro’s rog he links every special into another with no holes or breathing room(unless in HDR there is holes) and then your in the corner he has a super…well its just game over or some random vega player that doesn’t take HDR seriously but was a CVS2 fuckin player and beats you or it could Buktooths Chun who is just to smart and knows how to take apart guile piece by piece. Lets look at Japan. No one has got first place in a major ST tourney with Guile, all I see is rog’s like tamashima, vega’s like ARG got first ,Nuki’s or some other chun lis, win tourneys. The only time Kurahashi won a tournament finally after years of playing guile was in SBO 2007 with CE Guile with a defensive style and it was the only time a Guile player won a tourney in Japan.
Please leave
The whole point of the change was so we won’t have to switch to some other character!
There is no change, but basically we’re slipping into troll territory at this point. You’re clearly not gonna let it go, but I think anyone who’s sane can sleep well at night knowing that there is no change and whatever you’re referencing when you use the term is on some fringe of insanity.
Try/Cry harder.
Oh, no you, jigglynorris, and cloth X are the only trolls here who decided to come into our thread and ruin it by flaming people like ur doing right now . As I said earlier I made my point about the Low forward and would like to get back to stategy with Guile on here, but you not exactly let me do that by coming back for more about it and then I have to respond. Lets move on please.
Have any of you HDR Guile’s been able to RH flash kick Vega’s slide on a consistant basis? How about his wall dive fakes with the RH version? In VST I use a boom to hit the fakes but Its a dangerous guessing game vs Claw.
No we are telling you to be quiet. This isn’t ST it’s HDR. GET OVER IT. It’s coth_x BTW. Keep whining, guile is nowhere near as bad as fei or cammy. Yeah he has been nerfed in every SF2 and he’s still midtier.
Your not Guile players so please leave if ur gonna troll on here unless ur gonna learn guile and ask for help.
Someone please get rid of this idiot.
WTF, Im no idiot, I expressed my OPINION so that doesn’t make me an idiot, I am defending my self mostly on here not smack talking so, please refrain from insults and lets get this thread back on track you guys state your opinion and we guile players stated ours K its done with lets leave it on that. I have already asked the mods to closed this thread if you guys keep it up.
Well it really all depends how far Zangief is after going through the boom and how early Guile recovers from the boom. If I see him do the hand late, I can usually trip him up with a ducking roundhouse (on the first hit). The hop kick will work as well. If Zangief is close enough after going through a boom, there’s nothing Guile can do. For Zangief’s ducking roundhouse trip, an early hop kick as well will work. In general you really got to be smart with the booms and keep your distance but that’s easier said than done against a high level Zangief player. Up close, it pretty much seems like all Gief’s moves, punches, and kicks, out prioritize Guiles…lol IMHO, a high level Zangief player should be able to beat a high level Guile player in this game. If anyone disagrees with me, try playing Snake Eyes’ Gief with Guile.
I would also like to hear from Batt and Mars regarding this match up too.
Wow…I thought I gave the suggestions for tweaking Guile like…two months ago or something? Cr.:mk: is fine the way it is. Make that Rolling Sobat standing :mk: hit mid while avoiding low attacks and you have a slide counter that can be reasonably baited and countered with other moves while making Guile take a risk by losing his Flash Kick charge.
Beyond that, Guile is just fine the way he is. And…yes…I’m still a combo-fanatic. 
That’s my two cents on it because I’m out of pennies now.
Wow…I thought I gave the suggestions for tweaking Guile like…two months ago or something? Cr.:mk: is fine the way it is. Make that Rolling Sobat standing :mk: hit mid while avoiding low attacks and you have a slide counter that can be reasonably baited and countered with other moves while making Guile take a risk by losing his Flash Kick charge.
Beyond that, Guile is just fine the way he is. And…yes…I’m still a combo-fanatic.
That’s my two cents on it because I’m out of pennies now.
dont feed the trolls…thanks
dont feed the trolls…thanks
Just to be fair, man, you were probably the first person to utilize what I call an aggressive tone. I’m sure we can discuss improving Guile without criticism or anything, so maybe you and the others involved should just start fresh. All the best.
Honestly though, what benefit is there to that topic of discussion? How do you talk about improving Guile in a game that is likely to be left as is and not see an update, for what can be perceived as, ever again? I mean, no offense to anyone interested in the subject, but your energy is best spent elsewhere than theory crafting a Guile that just won’t exist in ST. The Guile that Battosai wants does exist though, he’s in CVS 1, CVS 2, Hyper SFII, and CE. And I’m not trying to be back handed about that, it’s just that Capcom moved beyond ST a while ago. All we can do is play our character now, guys.