Not so sure anymore:
c.Jab hit advantage:+5
c.Fierce startup: 6f
Its quite easy to notice, I guess we all are very lazy to check the frame data.
I think it’s a 1f link when Rufus is cornered.
It is a 1f link anywhere, otherwise the c.HP wouldnt connect. The c.LP hits meaty.
I was not reffering to cr LP,cr HP link.But to Axe Kick(MK),cr LP link,against Rufus.Against him it isnt a 2 frame link for some reason,thats what i sayed =)
Yeah, what me and gog are referring to is the MK axe kick to the cr. LP link. It’s suppose to be a 2 framer against everybody, but it feels harder against Rufus. I may do some test later just to try and confirm that.
OK guys, I just did a test and after recording myself hitting the link against Abel I went back and chose Rufus and had Evil Ryu attempt the link against me and it did not combo. I guess this confirms that this link is a 1 framer against Rufus and is probably part of the reason why he can link cr. HP(after cr. LP) against Rufus. I tested this on the PC version and only used Abel as a test character to hit the link in case anyone was wondering. Let me know if you’re not getting the same result no matter how much you try.
Oh wow,I thought that most E.Ryu players knew this already,but yeah,it is a 1 frame link against Rufus,if not the lp wouldn’t hit meaty,thus being +5 and,as cr.HP comes in 6 frames,the link would not be possible
guys, Im talking about the c.LP after MK AK aswell. Just stop to think. the c.LP after it needs to hit meaty in order to the c.HP to connect. So the MK AK -> c;LP is a 1f link.
It MAY be a 2f link in the second part of the combo, but thats harder to confirm 100% once the c.HP whiffes.
ps: nevermind about this post, its pure bullshit. Just ignore it.
For me anyways I haven’t seen anyone before gog make a statement that it’s a 1f link. I always knew it felt harder but I thought it was just all in my head because the frame data says it’s a 2f link. I’ve heard about plenty of ways to make certain links easier or possible when it’s not possible, but this is the first time I’ve heard of a link getting harder. It doesn’t help that I don’t play many characters so I’m not too informed about all the other characters who may have an issue like this as well.
As for it being a 1f link. Well you have to admit it’s a pretty nice trade off considering we can link cr. HP into whatever for more damage and stun. So I hope they keep it around as a Rufus specific thing.
Hey guys after wondering how to use EX red focus in combos, I decided to make this short video about how some characters(including Evil Ryu) can use it in combos. I decided to focus on characters that have a special that doesn’t knockdown or have a lot of push back. These characters can fish for EX red focus more easily so they can land Ultra or whatever.
Characters like Yang or Viper are pretty much safe when doing their normal x special on block. Evil Ryu isn’t, he’s -7 as we all know and his LK axe kick seems to have different amount of push back against different characters. But I figure if you space it well and don’t use it too often, he can get away with it and be able to take advantage of this new mechanic as well.
Unfortunately their is no sound though. It’s my first time recording and editing a video so I ended up with no sound and have no idea how to fix it so I just uploaded it anyways since I already put some time into it. Useful for Evil Ryu? Not useful because LK axe kick is too unsafe this way?
I think the only characters that are going to have some profit using it in combos are the graplers. Its just too much bars and too much damage scaling. In Evil Ryu’s case its quite evident, we can to deliver more damage with less bars and saving your Ultra meter. Or to use it in a 2-3 bars combo and do way more damage.
Is this mod that you used the same a guy posted here some time ago, with a lot of changes that are way off what we saw in the beta footages?
I think it is, I’m using the one by KingBlacktooth. You can get it below
Deathgun, are you aware the red focus now cost 3 bars instead of 4? They announced that change about 2 weeks ago I think. With it being 3 bars, I think it with be worth it for Evil Ryu to use if he has a fully stocked Ultra 2. He can do anywhere from 476 to 516 damage depending on which normal you use with Light axe kick. That’s much more than any of his 2 bar FADC combos starting with low forward.
Even his punish combos ending with SRK, FADC, Ultra(either) does about the same damage and you have worry about not dropping your link. Same goes for cr. MK, EX fireball, FADC, Ultra 2 which only does a little bit more damage and requires really good reflexes. The EX red focus combo is extremely easy to confirm and has no links.
The only thing to worry about is the fact that light axe kick is very unsafe. I think you can get away with some if you mix in the medium one and show that to your opponent. The fact that the light and medium one look very similar is also a factor. I’ll definitely try using this when Ultra comes out and see how well it works out for me.
Will the damage scaling be the same for the Red Focus Cancel?
Their has been no mention of extra scaling. That’s a very big deal so if their was any I’m sure they would have mentioned it by now so I think it will be the same.
It was mentioned awhile back by combofiend that the scaling on Red Focus is different from Focus attacks.
Focus attacks count as 2 hits
Red Focus counts as 1