I would like to see this match just because I have trouble playing Akumas.
^^^Yeah, along with Yun, Akuma can be a hemorroid…irritating. My luck is to slow down his rushdown game and keep him just within dash range. Elenas got that reach, so I like to play that Lennox Lewis “pick you apart from the outside” game.
Akumas love to rush, and its funny how some act if you don’t let them inside.
does anyone have any links to some good Elena vids? I really want to learn her!
edit:So Ive been using Elena for about a week now, definatly gonna stick with her as my backup character. One important question though, its an embarassing one too! What do you use to charge meter? I used MP and MK , now Im using the Round Arc cause it charges a bigger portion of the meter. Which is the best?
I got this rekindled love for Spinning Beat now
I know Brave Dance is the popular super of choice, but I like all that stock I get with “Beat”
I also like how “Beat” is almost instant upon start up. I m able to punish whiffs with it.
I can’t really land “Dance” without hit-confirming it. I can’t use is to punish whiffs b/c my opponent is able to block/parry during that short time that she hops.
rh, b+rh and c.forward
I wouldn’t be banking on trying to punish with any of her supers in general. Stick with c.forward, f.rh or most flavors of her fast ex specials.
Beat is cool esp when you see al the cool juggles you can do like in the slimex vids, but do to the fact that it is way more punishable then brave dance and you can be thrown out of it, i kind of avoid it. but if you are good at landing it, it really annoys your opp.
SPINNING BEAT HAH
but then again if your good at landing it you might as well use brave dance so you can hear Ken player go “damn that deals alot of damage”
I like Spinning Beat for the meter, but the super itself isn’t that great. In my experience, it doesn’t always combo after a c. MP. Maybe the first few hits will connect, but the rest are blockable. Anyone else have this problem?
this can often happen at further distances or when you use it to counter pokes
I rather use Healing than Spinning Beat coz making your opponent feel that their damage is worthless makes my day.
Sigh I suck with Elena, all these Kens just kill me, I have to resort to Chun and Urien to stand any chance. LazyYetCrazy, you should come down to SVGL again, your Elena is a beast , Ive gotta play you again. Actually I think I may have seen you a few weeks ago, do you also play dark brown Urien?
Thanks, yeah I want to come to SVGL again, it’s only an hour away but i’m pretty lazy :-/. I started playing 3s with Hugo, and moved on to Elena shortly after. So really, I’m just comfortable with her, which means alot I guess when it comes to being able to instatly pick which poke to use or what not.
But yeah, play a character for 3 months straight and I guess that happens. Your Elena wasn’t bad at all when we played a while ago, I think the comfort is just not there. Drop chun and pick Elena in her place, yessssss. Really though Elena is just Chun minus alot…ok that doesn’t sound good but it’s true. But you can take Chuns pokes etc and just do it with Elena. Less priority, less damage, but also less…clothing!
I definatly hear what youre saying about comfort. Elena is an awesome character, the reason I have trouble with her right now is simply cause I often forget which moves she can use when, and I havent gotten used to her overall feel. Im taking your advice and switching back to Brave Dance, Healing is a lot of fun but I miss my EX moves.
Ive been playing Chun for about 9 solid months, and am very comfortable with her, so I dont think Ill drop her completely. However Ive been using Urien a lot lately, which has seriously cut into my Elena practice time, and I think Elena is a bit more my style. Poor thong man might have to be put on the back burner for a while:lol:
So yeah send me a PM whenever you feel like coming down, Ill be sure to be there. And I agree, priority and damage for less clothing is a fair trade in my book:lol:
edit: I forgot to ask, can someone explain to me the use of the EX combo? I looked at its data vs cr.MP xx Brave Dance, and the Dance combo does 1 point more damage, and requires the same amount of meter. Is the EX combo just there for some variety, or is there somthing Im missing?
I’ve been into 3S for about a year & 1/2 now. Although i’ve been tempted, I refuse to switch characters until I can master her. I know its a stubborn way of thinking. I guess the logic is to be one of those cats who can dominate with a non-top tier character.
The problem is that SF:4 would probably be out by the time this happens :sad:
I myself is a solid Elena player. The first time I tried to use her is when my other teammates are really doing good with those top tier characters so I said to myself that I won’t settle in being the second best Ken or Chun player in the arcades… So that’s why I been known by others by the one who uses Elena… To think of it, it gives me a nice feeling to be recognised by others that way.
Been playing this game for almost 3 years i think, and been joining tourneys in our place using Elena. Wish i could play with you guys but im grounded here. Do you guys have any good vids of Elena matches. I rarely see some vids of Elena in tourneys and mostly their Elena end up losing… What I want to see is Vids of a good Elena player beating the crap out of those tier whores.
Long Live ELENA!!!
Playing other characters can really up your Elena game though. Sometimes it’s good to give a character a break and then come back.
If you can’t hit confirm - and some people can’t hit confirm to save their lives - then you only lose a small chunk of meter if the HCB + KK part is blocked.
The main reason I prefer the EX combo to cr.MP xx Brave Dance is that the EX combo allows you to throw in resets. After the EX Rhino Horn, you can reset with a late LK that puts them in MP Mallet Smash range. So you can catch a lot of people out by alternating between LK reset > MP Mallet Smash, LK reset > dash > throw. If the other player is being particularly dozy, you can even go for EX Spin Scythe > EX Rhino Horn > LK > EX Spin Scythe > EX Rhino Horn > Scratch Wheel. It’s not going to catch many people out but if you mix up with her kara-throw, MP Mallet Smash, EX Spin Scythe, it’s enough to be getting on with. I think the reset puts them in fwd + MP range too, I can’t remember. But experiment and have fun with it.
Also, once you get used to doing the LK resets this way, you can use EX Rhino Horn as anti-air and reset off that too.
It looks cooler too :tup:
Played around last night and the stuff you can do off the EX Spin Scythe > EX Rhino Horn > LK reset includes:
- twd + MP
- twd + MK
- MP mallet smash
- sweep (if it’s blocked, it’s almost max range so you’re fairly safe)
- Lynx Tail (I wouldn’t risk HK version)
- walk, throw
- EX Spin Scythe (rarely works but if it does…)
Sadly, the reset doesn’t leave the opponent in kara-throw range but walk, throw is quick enough (especially if you kara throw). I alternate between throw and MP Mallet Smash. I can’t remember if the range means you can cross up with MK though.
You can also reset off LP but you have to do this earlier. Also, because it’s higher, it gives the opponent more time to prepare to block/tech throw. The timing is easier than LK though.
Also, EX Spin Scythe > EX Rhino Horn > LK reset > MP Mallet Smash does hefty stun damage, especially in comparison to cr.MP xx Brave Dance which hardly stuns at all.
Thanks Mikee Ill have to try that out. I checked the guide and found that you can also do the LK reset, UOH XX Brave Dance. Not sure if its worth it but its at least possible.
HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS, ELENA IS LIKE THE SICKEST CHARACTER EVER!!!
cr.MP xx Brave Dance xx taunt= best. combo. ever.:lol::lol:
seriously though Im surprised more people dont play her, she is crazy!!!
Are there any real uses for the regular version of Rhino Horn? The only thing Ive found it useful for is an anti crossup, and even then the EX is much better and there are a limited amount of places Ive found to use the regular ones that are safe. Any help would be appreciated.
Also , with the lynx tail, Ive been using mainly the LK version when I do use it, are there any circumstances when it would be preferable to use the other 2?
ALSO:lol: Regarding her LP LK air chain. I cant get it to work for the life of me. I found another thread about this and the person said to hit lk right as you see the lp connect. Ive tried this time and again and I cant get a chain, all I get is LP.
Any help would be appreciated, Im really taking Elena seriously now and shes quickly risen to being my favorite character (although Chun ties her, cause Ive been using her for so long).
Thanks anyone and everyone.