do this:
after ex mgb, do HCF mk~lk and then kick or punch depending on your follow-up. should improve your accuracy dramatically.
if not, just stick with lk ducking, it gives you the most leeway in timing
I will be picking Yun or Yang, the one who beats Chun-li the best.
I have this combo like 50-60% down in real matches. I usually get out the s.hk but the EX MGB doesnt come out. does that mean i’m doing it to early?
You’re probably holding down HK when you input EX MGB.
It happens to me since I’m on a pad and HK is set to R2. I either get a duck or nothing.
If you get a focus crumple or a jump-in combo you should never do the cr.lp’s, they do negative damage. If you can’t do the f.mk s.hk you should just do s.hk.
It’s hard to say. I would guess it’s moreso that you’re not getting the full MGB input. Hold back when you hit hk.
Don’t think you can do it too early because hk is 4 frames.
if the move totally doesn’t come out, it’s very likely you’re doing it too early.
Still don’t see why people DESPISE this match up to be honest. Sim and Dictator are 10X worse IMO. Bison is the whole package VS dudley. We can’t do ANYTHING. I find we have to make for the bison to make a costly mistake and then just…get lucky pretty much. With Sim, really…realistically…pretty much…we are NEVER going to get in VS a GOOD sim. It’s easily dudleys worst match up. He doesn’t have projectiles, his duck is nearly useless, and sim can easily teleport out of any hairy situation. We have “counter” but its far from reliable. At least with Akuma and Seth when they eat damage…they EAT IT. LOL. Sim is much more forgiving in these areas.
Chun Li has amazing pokes and range but her reversal sucks, aa options suck, and has 950 health. Dudley does AMAZING damage to her and he really only needs to hit her like twice off of hit confirms and he can pretty much just lame it out. Chuns overhead is easily blocked once you learn it, floaty jump that is easily u2’d, exd dp’d, or st mk. and she just really relies on a strong defensive game most of the time. I dont think Chun Li is utter rape for Dudley. Sim relies on the defensive game too but getting in on Chun is much easier than sim.
I’d take her over bison, sim, and Blanka any day of the week.
She doesn’t need to jump, her aa options are really good, reversal is good just not FADCable, if she plays it right she won’t need overhead because she doesn’t need to come to you. It’s bad. Not as bad as dhalsim but still not good by any means.
I don’t think it’s because I’m holding s hk I’m on the stick. Idk. I start mgb with down back not back.
Well that’s your whole problem then isn’t it?
I believe the reliable shortcut for hcf is :l::df::r:
I see I’m just going to do the full motion
I’m not saying we beat Chun Li…im just saying its really not one of his worst match ups.
T Hawk
Zangief
Bison
Honda
Guile
Sim
Blanka
Vega
are all worse.
Honda and Sim are the only ones I think are worse than Chun.
Bison, Chun, Guile feel equally as bad imo.
Sim and Blanka for me x.X
Blanka-Our basic BNB combos do not connect. lol. We have to do cr lk-mk TC into stuff and we do easily less damage to him as opposed to anyone else. Not to mention hes incredibly good at running away in this match up and laming it out.
Vega-Umm is pokes are incredibly dumb and fast and there really is no way to get around it. Yeah, it does no chip dmg but he can build meter fast in this match up and our BNB’s once again don’t work on him. Hp or EX counter CAN be good but I don’t think it is worth it to throw out there all the time. Maybe every now and then. You’ll eat big dmg if you fuck it up.
Sim-I dont need to elaborate.
Gief-We mess up ONCE and we are basically screwed. We are human beings…it’s probably going to happen.
Hawk-Marn hates this too. His pokes are GREAT and he rapes us at close range. Also has an AA ultra to stop us from jumping once we can’t fight back against his pokes.
Guile-He gets RAPED if you get inside but against a GOOD guile…it’s just not going to happen. U1 is useless, duck is useless, and guiles pokes and quick aa options are tooooo good.
Honda-amazing health. Dudley doesn’t hit as hard here and Honda has a command throw that is pretty useful in this match up. Not to mention, his pokes are incredible and lead to HHS on hit confirm. its dumb.
Bison-Get in the corner and we die. Our wakeup game is nearly useless because he can teleport, or ex scissor or psycho which is 100% safe. roundhouse is dumb.
I dont find Chun to be that scary. She has low health, our u1 and duck are useful against her because she does not have guile/ryu recovery, doesn’t really COMBO or do amazing dmg fast, weak reversal options, weak/predictable cross up options, slow jump to easily AA, (you can even aa her overhead if you’re reactions are fast)
She can keep Dudley out but if he gets in ONCE she is pretty fucked and will eat a good 40% of her health at ease. All Dudley needs to do is get in once and make it hurt and hes golden because then she is forced to play offensively. All that she is going to do at this point is projectile to follow it to see what you do. If she does this U1. Otherwise, her offensive options are balls. She just tries to keep people out with her BS pokes or follow projectiles and see what you do. If she can’t do this she is severely limited.
I don’t think Chun is the best character in the game…at all. Same with Honda being two.
Off topic but I think Rog is the best.
Yeah if Vega can keep you out, the match is hell. But Dudley st HP beat most of his normals alive and if you can get in and guess right once after you knock him down, it’s lights out for Vega.
Geif and Hawk are annoying if you guess wrong on their wakeup. You have to live by that “You no scare, I no scare” and just go for it sometimes.
Worst thing about Blanka is that Dud’s st HP doesn’t hit him out of electricity, which doesn’t matter if you can time your oki properly. cr MP beats electricity if you need to hit him. Blocked balls are a free HP MGB or EX MGB or RT (I don’t use it here). Next thing he has is being random/gimmicky with throws. The times I do lose to Blanka is because I forget no one is over doing a random Ultra and always eat it and die or get lamed out the rest of the match. You can CC his Ultra lol.
E. Honda Kills my Dudley.
What should I do against E. Honda Head Butt?
reversal ultra 1 punish any of those…
His Regular head butt…? Is there a regular move that punishes head butt…
Honestly Dudley Match-Up thread should be updated…forreal…
You can only punish Honda’s HP Headbutt with Dud’s MP MGB.
You can punish all headbutts with U1.
This information is in the matchup threads that you say should be updated, but why do that when you’re not going to look for it anyway? There’s a THREAD dedicated to the this match up that you couldn’t find lol.