Drawing/Sketching fundementals thread

How do I upload an image to here? I have a few sketches ready but I can’t seem to upload them

imgur.com

upload images then just post the links here or use the image embed that this forum has.

Ah OK thanks man. Well this is just a lil sketching I did today. I remember someone saying to draw and shade 3-d shapes so ya can get a feel for where I’m at.

http://i.imgur.com/XXL47xV.png?1

Also how can I improve the quality of my scans? Because I paid 5 bucks for this to be scaned at staples and it looks barely like what I sketched in the book

Looks like the page wasnt fully touching the scanner or the scanner is just incredibly shitty.
Try removing the page before sscanning and see how it looks.

Yea, the scanning quality makes it impossible to judge. Also, there’s no cube.
Draw a cube, that’s one of the more important shapes said to draw

( Circle, a Cube, and a Cone)
I don’t know why I said Circle, meant Sphere, but you got that.

Dammit. OK Guess I’ll scan again tomorrow, that’s another 5 bucks but fuck it.

Either buy an all-in-one (copy/printer/scanner), use a digital camera, or use your phone’s camera if has good enough megapixels (at least 8)

Saves time/money compared to going to Staples.

Just tried it with my Camera. This looks better than the damn scan lol. Thanks for the tip dude.

http://i.imgur.com/MJnVpUx.jpg

Got a cube in there this time. Now I see why ya said to draw it. It’s harder to shade a cube.

@BB_Hoody With the image as blurry as it is, I can’t really determined much, but I’ll see what I can do.

    1. Your shapes looks like it has a bunch of fur.
      From the looks of it, it seems like you do a lot of chicken scratching. You want to draw one long confident line, and go about it from there. Cause no matter how much effort you put into a drawing, if the line quality is ass, the overall image will look like ass.

To improve your line quality, refer to this video:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDNDOKnArk

    1. The lighting makes no sense, but that’s something will talk about once we go over these other steps:
    1. Your Cone and Cylinder look off, one reason being the ellipse. Remember, when measuring something like a Cylinder, you’ll never have two of the same ellipses. Not only that, but…
Spoiler

Practice your Ellipses and get this Book https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaZmwHU7vZo

    1. … no sense of perspective. Judging from the Cube, there’s no vanishing point it’s connecting to. The lines just seem to be shooting at random places. You’ll need to have an understanding of perspective before trying to understand how to draw humans.

As for the eyes and nose, they look like symbols. Don’t draw what you think you see.
When drawing, say an Eye, don’t tell yourself you’re drawing an Eye. You’re not drawing an Eye, but rather, the shapes that form an eye. You’re never drawing an arm, but the shapes that form an arm. You’re never drawing a nose, but rather, the shapes that form a nose. To get a better understanding of this, you have to understand how to draw shapes. If you can draw Cube, Sphere, Cylinder, Cone, and a Pyramid well, there’s nothing you can’t draw. Thing is, you need to learn how to draw those things.

Grab the book Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling. A short book, can be done within one afternoon. It’ll simply ease you into the subject of perspective. From there, pick up Scott Robertson’s book How to Draw, and go from there.

Hmm guess I got a long way to go. Never had any formal training or guidance to improve my drawing. Just winging it all my life. But that’s why I’m giving myself 6-8 months to develop my skills. So where can I get these books from. Local library, or buy’em from a barns and nobles? And thanks a lot for the honest critique, I appreciate it. I’ll start practicing these tips from the vid, I’ll try to at least post something once a week so ya can gauge my progress.

Any places that sells books will get you the right tools.
But honestly, if you want to save a good 20% per book (or more), amazon is the best place.

By the way, read this book too
http://www.amazon.com/Art-Spirit-Robert-Henri/dp/0465002633/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1433087604&sr=8-1&keywords=art+spirit

Since at a beginner level, you may not be walking around with a sketchbook drawing random things like most artists do.
So in the mean time, have this book around and read when possible.

I can toss you both books that should be helpful for everyone so you don’t have to buy them if you’re strapped for cash.

If BB Hood is still drawing what he thinks instead of sees then he should probably hit up: Keys to drawing by Bert Dodson.

Book will help you get away from drawing and thinking in symbols and get you into the mindset of thinking in Lines and shapes.

Both Keys to Drawing and Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain by Betty Edwards are good, also around the same level.
Either one is great, reading both wouldn’t be necessary. However, they are both wonderful beginner books.

Yep you called it. That’s exactly how I try to draw. Visualize what I want to draw and try to put it on paper. But I can see that doesn’t work so well, so I’ll check out “Keys to drawing”. Also you’d really give us free books? if so that’s be really cool of you and I’d really appreciate that.

Hmmmmmmm…
I’m wondering as to why you’re simply limiting yourself to just 6-8 months of knowledge. Low on time?

Well I’m not just going to stop at 6-8months. Drawing is something you never stop improving on. But I wish to make drawing, illustration and doing things requiring such a skill set as my means of making money as well as the personal satisfaction of knowing I can draw well, and put anything in my head on to paper. The 6-8months is a goal I set for myself because, he job I’m working is a temporary contract job with this aircraft interior repair facility. They said the contract can last from 6 months to a year. So I set that goal for myself to get my drawing skills up to where I feel confident to put myself out there and advertise my work and maybe get some commissions or even work in animation, or illustrations or whatever. Either way I’d like this job I’m at now to be the last “job” I work. And instead make money doing something I enjoy.

Just be careful where you set your goals. Judging from your level, it’ll take quiet some time to get decent. 6-8 months is being highly optimistic. To create diagrams for a Aircraft Interior would take a very strong understanding of perspective and basic understanding of organics. I’m not sure what this specific job’s requirements are, but it’s possible they could simply require blue prints, which wouldn’t take “too” long to learn how to build that up (since they are usually isometric and require rulers to build upon those). But in that case, very little drawing fundamentals wouldn’t be necessary for that field (if any).

Also, if you decided to push yourself to draw all the time, be caution of Carpel Tunnel.
I usually draw from 6 - 8 hours a day, but do said exercises to prevent it from happening to me:

Also, when pushing yourself, remember one thing:
It’s good to run up a hill, you feel like your progressing. But sometimes you waste too much stamina to tackle the hill afterwords. Try walking.

Well I don’t plan on pursuing aviation further. I mean I guess I could develop the skill to draw blueprints, but that’s not my primary goal. My goal is to be able to draw well at a consistent level to where people would like my work enough to want to commission me to draw stuff for them and/or build up a portfolio to show to employeers within fields such as animation and illustration. Or maybe even come up with my own thing like web comics or animate my own stuff. But before I can get into any of that I gotta get my skills up there. Now I wont have 6-8 hours a day to draw, ( on weekends I can ). But I think I can shoot for 2-3hrs a day during the weekday after work. Would that be good enough? Also do you do any work in drawing and illustration? Or you just draw that often as a hobby?

I have a dream in mind that’s pushing me to draw as much as I am.
Long term, trying to get into animation, but for now getting into the basics. I gesture draw through internet images and several on-site sessions so much that I need freakish fetishes to turn me on now. But for someone to draw 2 - 3 hours a day but expecting a strong portfolio in 7 months is… not likely.

I was very lucky with this career choice, as of right now, I have some very strong artists helping me on the field. Granted, I’m still a beginner, but apparently I’m being told that my progress isn’t normal. I seem to be excelling at a very rapid pace. Though, I can’t say how true this is, since I’ve never seen anyone else’ progression, simply their current abilities.

Having that said, I’ve been drawing for 5 months now. There are days when I take “breaks” and those are actually days I only draw for 2 hours (min). I’ve lost sleep, pulled all nighters, go to work feeling like shit work and back to my studies. Even on my self studies, I feel as though I can’t close the book until I’m done with X chapter. And even with all that, after 5 months, I’m no where near having a portfolio setup nor should I even be looking at commission work. From what I’m told, average time it takes to learn fundamentals is roughly around 2 years (and that’s if you under go the schedule I’m taking).

So yeah… it’s gonna be a hard path to take.
A difficult one, as a lot quit due to lack of confidence. However, I feel as though if you take the path without going blind, you should be fine. Not 8 months fine… but you’ll get there eventually.

Hmm Ok sounds like I need to set more realistic goals for myself. Damn wish I had spent the last two years perfecting my drawing instead of pursuing an A&P license because it’s a “secure” decent paying career. Oh well no going back now, just moving forward with my renewed passion for drawing. OK so you sometimes pull all nighters and go to work tired? Then I have to make the same level of commitment. I think I at least draw for 4 hrs a day. Maybe look into a job that’s closer to home so I wont have to spend so much time traveling to and from work. Average commute there and back on public transport is roughly 3 to 4 hrs a a day. That’s a lot of wasted time on the bus and trains. :frowning: