I agree and do the same but people were talking about trying to combo after the level 3 since it’s possible after Gohan’s so thought to share what I know regarding Tien’s. I like using Beerus for the DHC since I can choose to go into his good oki or go for the damage DHC into Tien.
Last night couldn’t get through more than 2-3 games in a row with my friends before getting kicked from server. 
STreaming DBFZ for a bit, watch me get rekt:
The delay has consistently been 2-3 frames for the past couple days. Pretty happy about that.
The state is called being in a fucking crater in the ground
The only thing I like about the online is the connection strength indicator, as it doesn’t just snap shot a value but constantly communicates with the peer, making it so that you can identify a shit connection from just observing for 10 seconds.
Everything else is total shit though. What fucking retard came up with waiting for 60 seconds for the other guy to accept? 15 seconds max! Ain’t nobody got time for that shit.
Why doesn’t this game have GGPO? Why can’t I talk to people and make friends? Why’s the lobby so trash? Why can’t I invite friends?
Honestly what the fuck?
Asking why a Japanese mainstream game doesn’t have GGPO is funny. The only mainstream fighter to have anything like GGPO is a US made game. A situation where it’s much easier to consult with the creators of GGPO to get it worked out.
It is funny that a lot of the things that people complained about with SFV’s lobby system, seems to really be what other developers plan on being the future of fighters online. Wanna talk to people? Gotta get on Discord or open up party chat. Which is more ironic for a game that forces you into a 64 man lobby when you open it up. Something that puts you in an environment where you’re always looking at people to play with (a good idea initally) becomes really off when you can do the exact same things you can do in SFV at best.
This character is balanced.
Didnt read everything just commenting on some stuff i saw
Leon my team is perfectly fair i play cell yamcha goku ;^y
Cell should always be first. Hes probably the overall best in the game but idc i called cell main from the day the first trailer dropped. His st.M is hilarious, srsly go test the range on that thing. No, dont read the rest of this post, go test it now!
I was playing nappas but i think yamcha is better plus yamcha has such piss easy conversions to big damage.
I want to replace goku with adult gohan but my gohan succs, so hes on my casual team for now.
When people figure ginyu out hes going to climb the tier list
All of this might be old or yall might e discussed it alrdy idk i havent been on here much cuz ive actually just been playing rhe game nonstop for the past week. Oh yeah what are the BP requirements for each rank? If anyone knows.
Vegeta is really fkn annoying. HIT is definitely super good. Goku blacc is okay along with android 16. I think adult gohan is the future. Cell is lord. Uhhh idk what else to say, ill get bacc to playing now ta-ta
Fucks sake online in this is straight trash.
“You have been disconnected from the lobby” over and over and over afuckingain.
Heres a fucking idea, how about having no fucking lobby to disconnect from and narrowing the things that can go wrong to just between 2 players in a match?
Wish you could type your own messages in DBFZ like in GG instead of being stuck with the preset messages. HATE it when developers do that for PC games.
Literally everything about dbfz with regards to their online component, is terrible.
Chat is horrid.
Finding matches is bad.
Input delay is terrible.
No ping indicator.
The lobbies are archaic.
Replay function is the most horribly implemented I’ve ever seen… the shit kicks you out after watching 1 replay.
Rematch function takes forever, like mvci, because the developers want to make you watch a post match grading system, every game, for thousands of games (the fuck happened to being able to skip this shit)
You have to “face towards” and be close to the lobby person you want access to rather than just being able to walk into a circled area and press A… this makes finding things like your training mode dude annoying when they are covered by 20+ avatars. why annoy people that want to play your game?
Walking from place to place takes time, time that I don’t have. If I want to walk and shit I’ll play some open world game (dbfz does have text menus to use instead by pressing trigger) but I digress, still makes me feel like the devs added that in in a conciliatory way and that they would prefer me walking around wasting my time in their horrendously bad virtual lobby.
And once again, NO GGPO. I don’t care if it’s jap devs or eu devs or devs from planet cybertron. I want ping times and the ability to pick my own delay, like what ggpo has had since over a decade ago and skullgirls had in 2012. How in the fuck you gonna let a game with a 10th of your budget clown you like that?
Yeah I was already annoyed that every video had a Vegeta and now this. Guess we’ve found the Sentinel / Doom of DBFZ. Wouldn’t mind keeping him like this but giving him Phoenix’s Health
The problem is that he’s the best assist in the game and a very strong character himself. Unless you use some sort of specialized team there’s not that much of a reason to not use Vegeta right now.
Living Legend 1,000,000+
Super Saiyan Blue 900,000 - 999,999
Super Saiyan God 800,000 - 899,999
Majin 700,000 - 799,999
Super Saiyan 3 600,000 - 699,999
Demon 500,000 - 599,999
Supreme Kai 400,000 - 499,999
Super Saiyan 2 330,000 - 399,999
Android 270,000 - 329,999
Super Saiyan 220,000 - 269,999
**Frieza Clan **170,000 - 219,999
Saiyan 120,000 - 169,999
Namekian 70,000 - 119,999
Earthling 30,000 - 69,999
Saibaman 0 - 29,999
Remember when they said the good assists will be attached to the lower end characters and the best characters will have worse assists?
I member.
That went to shit I guess coz all the good assists are from the first characters that were shown, it’s like they forgot the assists completely while making the rest of the cast and then went “Oh shit, well we have to choose one of their specials as assists and hopefully it’s good”.
Also fuck Gohan’s long ass legs, I don’t remember this asshole sliding fullscreen into death in the anime. This is so not canon.
I legit love this game.
It is deeper than I thought it would be, but the online fucking KILLS it for me.
I have not touched the game in about 4 days.
I REALLY hope the online gets better before EVO.
Since it is at EVO people will still play it just because it’s relevant. If it’s not fixed by then, it will probably die and that would suck.
You can just reflect for free after blocking a Vegeta-assist to get your opponent out of your face, right?
Because that does reduce its value quite a bit since it means you can’t use it to extend pressure effectively once people learn that. It’s still a top notch assist even without that, though, as it provides excellent space control and is an amazing combo extebder regardless.
Hahahhaha just benefited from the Tenshinhan bug in a ranked match. Went full Reptile on the poor guy, invisible dash up 2L.
I’m not sure I understand this one correctly, but if you mean rematching in lobbies, you can set it up so you don’t have to go back to the lobby screen. You rematch in 2 seconds really.