If I actually get the corner carry into jSSS, yeah, then 5H is better, but I really don’t like it if I’m not reaching the corner. In that case 2H at least allows for a jH-knockdown into some kind of mixup afterwards. And even then I’m still only doing the same damage my other characters are doing without needing to have to do anything with the corner.
Ridiculous pressure, good neutral and useful (though not amazing) assist, along with high damage and really scary high-low mixups thanks to his j2S-airdash.
but as we learned today due to @dialupsucky , you can reflect that shit the moment you got hit by vegetas fireballs. i am not sure if he needs the assist to keep going since he is doing it later without…when not…well…
Ok I’m gonna main three teams: Cell/A. Gohan/Vegeta, Gotenks/Majin Buu/Vegeta and Hit/Ginyu/Vegeta. Should be great, at least I’m gonna have a sick vegeta doing random QCFH.
In the corner 5M, 2M, 5H, Goku assist, 214S, 2M (wait for discs to get back) j.L, jM, jc j.L, j.M, Sx3, 236S does 5037. 5815 with a super.
Midscreen with Goku (or Black, perhaps Ten too?) he has the disc combos that deal decent damage too.
Freezer’s damage isn’t super good without assists, but I guess it’s supposed to compensate for his better than average normals and projectile stuff. But he still can deal decent damage with the proper assist.
you didnt watch my video did you… why do people post false things as fact its bizarre. I posted a video of a true block string with vegetas assist.
I block the first hit. Then I let go of the controller. I continued to block. It was a true block string. Next example. I pressed the parry command… Or to be honest I just fucked mashed it because it takes NO timing. Vegetas assist was only fixed in that the final hit only counts as a true fireball. But since there is a single fireball in it. YOu can get out of it. All you need is one.
Rest of the video i said before of that gohan thing, its cool and its fun. But the vegeta part is not real.
yamcha’s 5L is fucking goooood. 5M ain’t bad, but it’s kinda slow. 5H is really good, but unlike a.16 it has a justifiably big wind up time with back flip animation.
Note: His 2L’s hurtbox is bigger than his hitbox.
his j.M has a great hitbox, as well as his divekick, although it doesn’t have more priority than s.dash.
Tien’s only notable ground normal is his 5L, figures, because his mid-range feels only decent at best.
It feels like net code became worse post patch. Net code for me was better before the patch. The only thing the patch did was allow me to play arena and ring matches. Game feels almost unplayable at times. Im on a wired connection
I tested that stuff just now. Neat combo, gonna have to get it in my pocket. Anyway.
That saucer combo was 4887 for me (I probably didn’t get all the hits from the assists or something), and required me to start with a 5M. If I only start with 2M > 5H the damage is a few hundred lower. That means I can do
2M > 5M > jc jL > jM jc JL > jM > jSSS xx 236S - Goku Assist - 5L > 5M jc jL > jM jc jL > jM > jH for 4594 damage, or
2M > 2M > 2H > SD > jL > jM jc jL > jM > jSSS > 236S - Goku Assist - 5L > 5M jc > jL > jM jc jL > jM > jH for 4784 damage
which provides more cancel options during pressure and is a lot easier to execute, while providing comparable damage (though significantly less swag).
There’s one big advantage to that saucer corner combo though: it works with Trunks assist, so it’s useful if Goku’s beam is on cooldown (though that conversion is a lot tighter). You might even get a relaunch with another assist if you’re on point, but I suck at combos so someone else will have to figure that one out.
Midscreen I got around 4500 from 2M > 5H - Goku Assist - 214S - 5SS xx 22S - jL > jM jc jL > jM xx 236S, which is pretty good, but still not great, and it requires a specific assist.
I don’t think there’s a big problem with Frieza having subpar combo damage considering how good his overall toolset is, but his damage is on the lower end of the cast, to my knowledge. He also kinda requires specific teams to up his damage unless he’s on anchor duty (which I’m starting to be more and more convinced that he shouldn’t be). SSJ Goku or Black are probably his best assists since they both help his main gameplan (covering the screen with hitboxes) while also working very well with his combos.
Starting to take fighting game seriously with DBFZ and I’d like to know what aspects I have to consider to form a team? Right know I’m using Frieza/Vegeta/Goku as first choice and Yamcha/Teen Gohan/Vegeta as second choice, but I don’t know if they mixup well;