Dragon Ball FighterZ: Legendary Saiyans Edition

You can play the characters you want and have a competitive mindset at the same time, shocking I know. If this was what sparked your original post.

Considering he was brought up, Justin Wong is a pretty fucking prime example of a player who picks who he thinks is cool/enjoys/is his favourite and still dominates competitively.

“ruawwaahh back in my day”

Yeah. I forget how low tier Mag/Cable/Cammy was.

I love it when someone deconstructs an argument by not referring to what I’m referring to. MvC3, but I’ll let you do what you gotta do.

Enjoy DBZF, shit looks goooood. Hope the netcode is decent, ArcSys games usually feel kinda iffy online.

So, someone brought up this poll in discussion of the leaks. While it may not be the “Japanese poll” discussed by Vergeben or others, it does give an idea of who is popular in Japan.

https://www.animeranking.net/stat.php?id=34

Some of these placements are baffling and lul-worthy.

The way I see it, this might give an idea of our Japanese counterparts are thinking.

Damn. People really like Broly, don’ they?

You may want to sit down before reading this, it could blow your mind.

What if the whole point of the forums being open to join was for everyone to learn, discuss and find high-level matches? Not just the pros, people actually wanting to get good?

Dudes want to be elitist and make a personal Discord? It’s their problem. Just don’t complain if we ever hit another “Dark Ages” scenario.

Spoiler: We won’t, because there are people in the FGC who actually want to see our community striving. There are people in this forum who want to improve themselves and bring less skilled/experienced players to their level and if possible, even beyond.

Furthermore, you’re being ridiculous. No one here is a mashing wifi scrub.

More like “People really Bardock, doin’ they?” but what baffles me is Paragus.

I love Bardock, Bardock has been the main man since I first saw his movie

How can you not love the original Goku

I liked how Bardock would say “I’LL KILL YOU!” in Budokai 3 when he transformed

I’m going to play the shit outta this beta.

Once the game comes out:

im good for both at the same time!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBBWPVOGEss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl2-xuUffi4

For the topic of whether its a hit grab, a grab, a hit , a throw whatever. Does it matter? Currently speaking the game does not have any kind of throw in the now conventional scense. All “throws” “unblockable attacks” whatever you want to call them can combo. dragon rushes, 16s throws, power bombs, trunks throw, cells grab blah blah

No need to really get super specific at this time because at the end of the day that specific aspect doesnt really exist in this game anyway right now. All that matters right now is what works.

Like do we need to know the exact frame data of moves right now? Why a combo combos here? Just take it for what its worth right now, we know this combos, this combo looked tight, this combo looked lax and easy. Dont need to overcomplicate this sorta situation I think. Just focus on the implications meta of it

dont you dare…this is the original Goku and will ever be!

everything afterwards is just the work of a mad man who lost his way. :coffee:

Kid Goku would be a way better addition to the roster than bardock, who doesn’t even have a unique attack.

Unless bardock comes in oozaru form.

As for the best place to talk about games, just on the aspect of good players and good conversations. Don’t forget that not all people that can talk about games, are good at them. Not all people that are good at games, can talk about them. Its more rare for people to be good at games and be able to talk about games in a knowledgeable way. Hell we can tell from this thread here lots of people think I talk like a idiot yet, whos the one posting all the info? Whos the won that was winning tournaments when he use to actually go? Guess im a idiot because I don’t talk in nerd fighting game lingo.

And thats one of the biggest problems that ever happened to fighting game culture if you will conversation wise in this aspect is the accessibility of frame data. That coupled with the constant standardization of games, constantly getting easier makes me people feel to special for no reason. Oh I know the exact hurt box of this move ive seen it. This move starts up in exactly this amount of frames, has this amount of frames on recovery blah blah. In games now you have people who get butt hurt because someone says the word priority. People will say no priority doesn’t exist dont call it that, youre supposed to say this move is faster has a bigger hit box and a less hurt box than your move. Or… I could just talk like a normal human being and generalize something that doesnt have to be so butt fucking complicated and say this move has more priority over this one in this situation.

Thats still one of the biggest shocks to me when I was a kid and I first entered tournaments and started making money. The idea that we are brought up as kids, that to be a nerd you have to be asian, or have pimples all over, wear glasses, never have kissed a girl is so totally false. Lots of people are ‘nerds’, and if anything the stereotypical anime nerds I found was most often the actual worst at video games, the person who couldnt have a real conversation about games with out over complicating things and talking like a regular human being. Nor were they actually good at any game they talked about.

Now with “anime” games if you will, that started so long ago, that perhaps has a even DEEPER nerd society to it I think there is this thought that… ANIME GAMES ARE MINE. GUILTY GEAR IS MINE. BLAZBLUE BOOBIES is mine! we talk in frame data while these street fighter nerds talk about priorty. Those idiots dont they know my frame data says I win hear if I press one frame earlier than them at this specific distance blah blah.

All again blind to the fact that everyone is a human being people like games, you dont have to be a classic nerd to play them. You dont have to know exact nerd lingo to know how to have a real conversation. Fuck I can tell you in all those combo videos ive done, combos that people said werent even humanly possible I couldnt even tell you the frame data of those combos. How much stun they do blah blah. I just know, this combo was hard to do, this one was easy to do, this one took a lot of figuring out to do. etc

If theres a situation where someone needs specific info, then so be it. Its obviously there, someone will know. Other wise talk like a normal person, because it is normal to enjoy a hobby like video games or anything else.

I mean look at saying people should use discord, I saw a conversation not to long ago people were butt hurt someone said duck hard instead of 2C. Started flaming bashing the dude all over. Mother fuckers probably have never even won a tournament in their life. Think they are special because they use numeric lingo. Sad man. How smart can you really consider yourself if someone say down hard/duck hard never occured that it could also mean 2C.

If anyone talked like that to you at a arcade back in the day they would get laughed at or a weird look. Its like dude… its cool, im a nerd too, you dont need to impress me. Hell honestly actually I couldnt even tell you if anyone would laugh at you. Because the idea that anyone would ever say things like 'two b to two three sex c then super cancel to ’ is ridiculous.

On a gameplay related note, a funny potential thing that could work assuming things stay the same way they are.

So say whenever we tech, we purposely tech into the enemy on the ground, as soon as we land we deflect and call assist. If opponent throws obvious we have seen as is, throws can not punish us so assuming the deflect lasts just long enough for if they were to attack and try to hit the assist…they would actually hit our parry, and then we could punish them. So in a sense assuming we can tech right up in their junk realistically and the parry is long enough to be invincible to the throw when we hit the ground, and still parry is still active while the assist just starts… Well there you go another potentially annoying thing to try to deal with.

This shit is coming soon, so I need to put in my preorder. Whooping niggas ass with Frieza shit Imma love it lol.

To quote the Nerdator from Freakazoid!

Spoken Truth.

I cant tell from your reply if you are agreeing with me or not and you didnt see what I was trying to get at. Lots of people are ‘nerds’ , but if you go by the stereotypical hollywood fat, nerd, glasses, pimples all over, blah blah. This stereotypical nerd if you are talking about from a actual skillbase in video games do not dominate. Look at tournaments in fighting games… do you see people you would think got beat up in middle school/high school everyday? Watch even something like I dunno fucking super plays. Are they all nerds? Ive had a job as a model, I was winning tournaments with garbage bags in my pocket after doing radiation losing all my hair, in the bathroom between matchs. Do I look like your stereotypical nerd?

Probably not. And thats the point im making. LOTS of people are nerds. People who are actually GOOD at games, cover a wide variety of stereotypes if you were to look at them. People are so caught up with being ‘special’ that they cant see the bigger picture. Being a stereotypical nerd does not make you good at games. Being able to talk a good game(if you could even call it that)does not mean you are good at games. Some people are just good talkers, but cant play. Some people can play but not talk. Some can do both. And some people cant talk in a way that is relatable as a normal person.

People going to discord, twitter, with short responses with frame data responses, and nerd lingo if you will doesnt mean there is any actual substance there. You know what why dont I go get say one of my girlfriends to go read some frame data for a video game. So then she goes to discord or whatever it is someone asks a question someone might be like wow this girl knows her shit she knew the exact frame data of everything thats amazing! PS pls send nudes.

Does that mean, she actually KNOWS about the game, or can have a real conversation about the game? Or is even GOOD at it?

FORUMS are for discussion, and SRK is a forum, and thus even if its not anymore, it should be the best, because people can have thought out conversations and read things. Other than trying to say what they want to say in so many words, broken up jumbled messes that are often nonsense and have no real world merit if you will. Or oh I have a twitter now to have a real conversation I have to have so many followers for my knowledge to have actual merit or else it doesnt matter.

This gets back to what I said many many fucking times in this thread. People can say i have a ego all they want. And no doubt I do. But you know what, I watched every fucking button mashing scrub play this game just as much as I watched “good” people play. And thats why I know more about it than anyone right now to the point that people are pissy about it. The game is brand new, any knowledge is good knowledge. I dont need to go to twitter where people will be ignored because they dont have enough followers, I dont need to go to discord where some anime nerds who have never won a real fucking tournament in their life get pissed off because you don’t talk like they do. Id rather post on SRK because imo its more convenient. Or well… maybe it isnt, but it should be.

Lots of people are nerds, but just because you are one doesnt mean you are a “good” nerd if that makes sense.

or if you were agreeing with me then well nevermind my bad.