Dr. Doom Combo Thread

[Duck_Strong]

Arg, I shouldn’t be so petty over this, but both the “Duck Strong” combo as well as the quick dropping air dashes were already mentioned by me over six weeks ago, and I wasn’t even the first person to bring up the air dash whiffs, InBondWeTrust was.

Has it occured to you that I might have figured out the combo independently? Besides, mine is longer and does more damage(sounds silly when people try to appropriate something intangible doesn’t it?). The whole point of the forums is to share information. It shouldn’t really matter where it’s coming from. I certainly didn’t claim ownership over any of the ideas I mentioned.

And fyi, you are being petty.

[Nevermore]

I never said you were trying to take credit for anything, I’m also not going to continue this conversation any longer since the point is completely lost.

[triplexraider]

Yeah the corner combos I mentioned a couple of pages ago were also 4 reps.

Using the faster landing trick sjohnst2 mentioned, I’ve been able to do eek out slightly more damage since then (starting with the same cr.:l:):

:d:+:l:,:d:+:m:, :d:+:h:, :s:, sj.:f:+:h:, sj.:s:xx:d:+:atk::atk:, whiff sj.:h: (to land faster), land, otg :h:, :s:, sj.,sj.:f:+:h:, sj.:s:xx:d:+:atk::atk:, whiff sj.:h:, land, otg :h:, :s:, sj., sj., sj.:f:+:h:, sj.:s:xx:d:+:atk::atk:, whiff sj.:h:, land, otg :h:, :s:, sj., sj., sj.:f:+:h:, sj.:s:xx:d:+:atk::atk:, whiff sj.:h:, land, otg :h:xx:qcf::atk::atk:

This gets you 1,152,200. If you start with j.:f:+:h: and omit the first cr.:l:, you get 1,189,200. If you start with j. (probably the most likely scenario apart from landing the :d:+:l:), you end up with slightly less damage.

Tacking on an assist and :h: plasma beam before the lvl 3, gets 1,269,200 and 1,232,200 respectively with and without the j:f:+:h: variation.

While we’re on the topic, you can actually get 5 reps in the corner doing nothing but :s:, sj.:s:xx aid dash down, whiff sj.:h:, otg :h: (1 hit), :s: etc etc, but you end up with slightly less damage. It’s a fun combo if you want to show off though.

The faster airdash trick makes all his corner combos much much easier and allows you to extend them a bit more. I think it’s really important to try and incorporate them into your game since Doom can’t really afford to squander the few chances he gets to TOD a character.

Lastly, has anyone noticed that the game lags alot more since the patch? I find this to be especially noticeable for Doom since his opponents are covered in electricity during the combos and tend to cause dropped frames. Maybe I’m just becoming a bit more sensitive to it, but I even get this in the danger room.

So now, Doom can pretty much kill everyone besides Tron/Haggar/Hulk/Thor in the corner without X-Factor & assists. Amazing.

Definitely adding that combo to my Doom “corner death” scheme. Though I did try whiffing H while dashing down and it didn’t work so well. I’ll try again and see the results.

Regarding the lag, I have the same problem. It does lag when the opponent is covered in electricity sometimes and you can’t combo into his moves. I have foot-dived and then tried to combo into cr. L. Sometimes, it comboes, sometimes it doesn’t.

[AcidicEnema]

Height on the last jump is very strict. Also you need to speed through the whole thing.
I posted a video. Hope it helps to learn the timing.
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Thanks, that definitely helps. One thing though, it looks like if you want to get 3 loops, you need to do 1 hit stand C> S for the OTG portion.

However, whenever I do 1 hit stand C> S against other characters (not Mags) the launcher will miss. Does that mean you’re doing 2 hit stand C> S against other characters, or is there a specific timing for 1 hit stand C> S to work against other characters?

[faultydefense]

sentinel only deep in corner, so not very practical… but it looks (and sounds) cool
uses 3 bars, builds a bar and a half, 1,122,500~ dmg

:s: > j. :f:+:h: > (Airdash :d:) > :s: > j. :f:+:h: > (Airdash :d:) > :s: > j. :f:+:h: > (Airdash :d:) :s: > j. :f:+:h: > (Airdash :df:) j.:s: > :h: > :s: > j.:f:+:h: > (Airdash :f:) j.:s: > :h: > :qcf:+:h:

works on some bigs with fewer reps at the start

(thinkin you may be able to add a rep or two of that j.S > wiff j.Hfootdive combo mentioned earlier)

[sjohnst2]

Thanks, that definitely helps. One thing though, it looks like if you want to get 3 loops, you need to do 1 hit stand C> S for the OTG portion.

However, whenever I do 1 hit stand C> S against other characters (not Mags) the launcher will miss. Does that mean you’re doing 2 hit stand C> S against other characters, or is there a specific timing for 1 hit stand C> S to work against other characters?

Against the majority of the cast s.H 1 hit seems to be the best way. Notable exceptions are zero and wesker. I did just find that you can get them to the corner if you swap C>S with s.M(1 hit) f.H(hard kick). It starts up faster than S and still launches them.

Damage on that alternate is much poorer. About 778 where the other does 830. But a good assist like iron man beam should put the damage above 800 which is enough to kill Zero.

So try the alternate where it looks needed.

[maziodyne]

hey all. just spent ages in the lab working on my own Doom combo. dunno if anyone’s already beat me to the punch with this particular combo, kudos if you have, but I think this one is pretty cool. uses variation of everybody’s favorite loop:

j.:f:+:h: > :atk::atk: (air dash cancel) > j. > c.:l: > c.:h: > :s: > j. > j.:f:+:h: > :atk::atk:+:df: (air dash cancel down forward) > j. > c. > c.:h: > :s: > j. > j.:f:+:h: > :atk::atk:+:df: (air dash cancel down forward) > j. (land) > j. > j. > j.:f:+:h: > :atk::atk: (air dash cancel) > j. > j.:s: > :h: > :f:+:h: > j. > j. (1hit) > j.:f:+:h: > j.:qcb:+:atk::atk:

variation on the last bit with the wesker OTG assist (assumes, by this point, you’ve already foot dived your opponent all the way into the corner):

j. > j.:f:+:h: > j.:s: > :atk::atk:+:d: (air dash cancel down) > Wesker OTG assist > :dp:+:atk::atk:

I’m not exactly sure on the numbers since my head is practically throbbing from processing too many foot dives (lol), but I think without the wesker assist, this combo does 760k, and with it, does 830-ish.

I’ll edit this post later on with the actual numbers if anyone’s interested. this combo works midscreen and in the corner. tested on sentinel, thor, iron man, viewtiful joe, and arthur (the assist-less one I’ll be using more since I intend to use doom as my anchor)

edit: the combo ender that utilizes the wesker assist does 842k.

[Duck_Strong]

hey all. just spent ages in the lab working on my own Doom combo. dunno if anyone’s already beat me to the punch with this particular combo, kudos if you have, but I think this one is pretty cool. uses variation of everybody’s favorite loop:

j.:f:+:h: > :atk::atk: (air dash cancel) > j. > c.:l: > c.:h: > :s: > j. > j.:f:+:h: > :atk::atk:+:df: (air dash cancel down forward) > j. > c. > c.:h: > :s: > j. > j.:f:+:h: > :atk::atk:+:df: (air dash cancel down forward) > j. (land) > j. > j. > j.:f:+:h: > :atk::atk: (air dash cancel) > j. > j.:s: > :h: > :f:+:h: > j. > j. (1hit) > j.:f:+:h: > j.:qcb:+:atk::atk:

variation on the last bit with the wesker OTG assist (assumes, by this point, you’ve already foot dived your opponent all the way into the corner):

j. > j.:f:+:h: > j.:s: > :atk::atk:+:d: (air dash cancel down) > Wesker OTG assist > :dp:+:atk::atk:

I’m not exactly sure on the numbers since my head is practically throbbing from processing too many foot dives (lol), but I think without the wesker assist, this combo does 760k, and with it, does 830-ish.

I’ll edit this post later on with the actual numbers if anyone’s interested. this combo works midscreen and in the corner. tested on sentinel, thor, iron man, viewtiful joe, and arthur (the assist-less one I’ll be using more since I intend to use doom as my anchor)

edit: the combo ender that utilizes the wesker assist does 842k.

Well done dude, always nice to see new combos. That said, I’m a little confused.

What’s going on in this part?:

… j. (land) > j. > j. > j.:f:+:h: > :atk::atk: (air dash cancel) > j. > j.:s: > :h: > :f:+:h: > j. > j. (1hit) > j.:f:+:h: > j.:qcb:+:atk::atk:

I’m assuming that after the first j.:f:+:h: you’re air dashing forward then doing j. etc, but how do you land an OTG :h: after the j.:s: if you’re doing it from a normal jump? Doesn’t it need to be from a launcher to get the knockdown effect?

If the :h: isn’t OTG, are you just landing the j.:s: as low to the ground as possible to recover immediately and land (like his divekick x n ground infinite in MvC2)?

[triplexraider]

Yeah I’m using foot dive A LOT now. Not just the the random high in the air shit (sometimes that works too) but like in block strings it’s so good. The hit box is pretty much like nearly untouchable by most things in the game. His normals are pretty lackluster in priority and speed minus c.L (c.M is a decent anti air) but foot dive is that shit you need when you wanna beat shit. Particularly doing it off a dash cancel so you can do it high enough to air dash forward or down after and create high low mix up. If they try to poke you while you’re doing the foot dive its a free combo because at least from what I’ve tested pretty much nothing beats it. The air dash afterwards (especially air dash down forward) is pretty impervious to advance guard.

Lately I’ve been playing Dr.Doom in the back since I feel he’s a great anchor and it makes him a bit less reliant on chasing people to get damage but even without XF Doom there’s still ways to apply pressure. Once you get in I wouldn’t really worry too much about people pushblocking you on the first c.L you do. If you know they are the type to pushblock as soon as they feel a c.L or anything after that just dash cancel whether you hit it or it gets blocked. Sure if you hit with c.L and then dash forward you lose a combo opportunity but you get in Doom’s prime range for mix up any ways where it will be easy enough to open them up again for a combo. If they c.L gets blocked and they mash on push block you will get through the dash and then get within back throw range after a jump cancel to ADDF. You definitely wanna make your throw game scary with Doom because he can land big damage anytime he lands a back throw and it will blow up people sitting on block and pushblock too long. Throws are one frame start up so once you get in you shouldn’t have much trouble doing basic back throw to sphere flame combo for like 400K+ damage.

Once you get them afraid of push blocking and get them afraid of back throws you can start mixing your other stuff. Like dash, neutral jump cancel, air dash forward M to hit overhead or do the same thing but hit H instead to fake the overhead and hit low with c.L when you fall. ** Another good mix up with Doom is to use near instant overhead super jump ADDF M. ** Basically what you do is you super jump forward or super jump neutral just a bit of a distance from the opponent and get to about the top of a standing character’s head in height then hold the down forward direction on the stick + quickly press and tap 2 attack buttons together to ADDF and press M. This will create an ambiguous air M that crashes down super fast to the ground. If you do it high enough in the air it will land as overhead and allow you to hit confirm combo. You can also fake it and do it a bit lower to the ground so it ambiguously whiffs then do c.L into combo when you trick them into blocking high.

DevilJin, we seriously need you to do a extensive Doom 101 thread like Karsticles has done with Dormammu.

[AcidicEnema]

Against the majority of the cast s.H 1 hit seems to be the best way. Notable exceptions are zero and wesker. I did just find that you can get them to the corner if you swap C>S with s.M(1 hit) f.H(hard kick). It starts up faster than S and still launches them.

Damage on that alternate is much poorer. About 778 where the other does 830. But a good assist like iron man beam should put the damage above 800 which is enough to kill Zero.

So try the alternate where it looks needed.

Thanks again. I think Dante is another character that you need to do the alternate on =\

[maziodyne]

Well done dude, always nice to see new combos. That said, I’m a little confused.

What’s going on in this part?:

… j. (land) > j. > j. > j.:f:+:h: > :atk::atk: (air dash cancel) > j. > j.:s: > :h: > :f:+:h: > j. > j. (1hit) > j.:f:+:h: > j.:qcb:+:atk::atk:

I’m assuming that after the first j.:f:+:h: you’re air dashing forward then doing j. etc, but how do you land an OTG :h: after the j.:s: if you’re doing it from a normal jump? Doesn’t it need to be from a launcher to get the knockdown effect?

If the :h: isn’t OTG, are you just landing the j.:s: as low to the ground as possible to recover immediately and land (like his divekick x n ground infinite in MvC2)?

the normal jump j.:s: causes a knockdown so long as you catch your opponent in the air with the normal jump j.. that’s why it’s so important to land as you input the falling j. so you have enough time to jump up right away.

if done correctly, Doom should knockdown using the j.:s: really close to the ground, giving you ample time to OTG. apparently the game still considers the j.:s: in question as part of the launcher combo. hope this helps!

[Duck_Strong]

Yeah it does help alot, thanks. So I guess, as long as you used a launcher to get your opponent in the air in the first place, any j.:s: will spike them regardless of how many times you land on the ground in between.

[PsYcHo-CI2usHeI2]

Combo vid

new combo video
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[Nevermore]

new combo video
[media=youtube]wDOx4druFsk[/media]

Very excellent compilation and tutorials.

[Duck_Strong]

new combo video
[media=youtube]wDOx4druFsk[/media]

Very nice, I like the editing.

[Smexy_Millz]

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[triplexraider]

new combo video
[media=youtube]wDOx4druFsk[/media]

Amazing Doom video!

[Gamaran]

HOLY FREAKING MOTHER OF SHIT ON A BBQ SANDWITCH!!! #@!$)($&($&#@&(%^@*#(!! Buktooth loops are f**KING HARD!!!..

ok, just needed to loose some of the frustration of my last hour and a half on practice mode, with ppl that actually understand wtf i’m bitching about…

he gets it:

http://www.randyorton4u.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Randy-Orton-Impressive-Drop-Kick.jpg

he gets it:

http://www.danielsebastian.net/Dropkick%20on%20Emil.jpg

even she gets it:

why cant i get it? T___T

[triplexraider]

HOLY FREAKING MOTHER OF SHIT ON A BBQ SANDWITCH!!! #@!$)($&($&#@&(%^@*#(!! Buktooth loops are f**KING HARD!!!..

ok, just needed to loose some of the frustration of my last hour and a half on practice mode, with ppl that actually understand wtf i’m bitching about…

he gets it:

http://www.randyorton4u.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Randy-Orton-Impressive-Drop-Kick.jpg

he gets it:

http://www.danielsebastian.net/Dropkick%20on%20Emil.jpg

even she gets it:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-s6bd4fJWcno/TZZrTuS0sII/AAAAAAAAA7Q/0BNu2NUDcg0/s1600/dropkick_fin-sfw-712209.jpg

why cant i get it? T___T

It can take a lot of time. The Buktooth loops took me a few weeks, while the corner loops took me a few days.

You will get it soon.

I don’t think I’m a great player, but I managed to get those loops. It’s all about the timing.

[Dan917]

I’ve been practicing the buktooth loop for a good while now. I can get 2 loops about 75% of the time in practice.

My tips are:

1. You have to do j. Medium immediately after the launcher + superjump. This is common knowledge.

2. After forward + Hard followed by ADDF (air dash down forward), pretty much when Doom finishes saying “FOOT DIVE”, it’s time to hit medium while still in the air… then continue the loop or finish it off.

Now I can’t do the magneto loop for shit though.