Dorm Changes In UMVC3

I am so pissed right now, if this is final, Dormammu will die as soon as someone touches him with basic bnb combo and 1 bar of hyper…I really love dormammu, and he didnt deserve this nerf… :confused:

didn’t the entire cast get health nerfs?

I think it’s more that Doom is pretty ridiculous now. If you look at other matches with Hawkeye hitting Dormammu, his health isn’t dropping nearly as dramatically. Jintor’s copy, which was SDCC, had him at 1 million. While it may have dropped by around 50-100K (I’m not saying it did or didn’t, but rather expressing a possibility), I think that is to be expected. Part of Dormammu’s 1 million health was that he was slow as hell. He’s closer to a pixie now (but not a pixie, of course), and so we ought to expect that his health might take a slight drop.

Slight health drops are always worth general buffs to your character.

The health bars have also changed, which can be misleading. Look at the combo Dormammu does at 5:18 in that video:
j.L, c.L, c.M, s.S, sj.MMHS, 1D2C, Chaotic Flame

Assuming Doom still has 1 million health, that looks like it did 800K to me. But that’s my Vanilla eye talking, and it’s unlikely that combo actually does 800K.

Who knows, though? Maybe Dormammu does have much less health. 700K is definitely too low, though. Hawkeye hits Dormammu with a bare hyper in the second video, and it looks to do 25-30% of Dormammu’s life. IIRC, that hyper does 250-280K damage, which would place us around the 900K-1000K mark.

No.

I really hope that is true mate, but i recal that Seth said that Hawkeye’s tracking arrow super does lowest damage in the game of all supers, but can’t miss… Anyway, i totally agree about buffs being tradable for HP nerf…But this just seems too much :confused: Meh, we’ll see in 17 days, or maybe, if Maximillian tells us something about it :slight_smile: Cheers

I PMed Max about it. I suggest others who are also curious/concerned do the same.

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just so you guys know, Dorm vs Chris in UMVC3 is a horrible, horrible match up

I can’t tell if you’re joking. Chris was always a difficult matchup for Dormammu in MvC3 Vanilla, and it has actually gotten easier in Ultimate thanks to aerial Dark Spells. Champ wasn’t handling the matchup right at all until that last round, and even then he was stocking 3D0C, which might not be the best for fighting Chris, who spends all of his time superjumping. Given Dormammu’s new abilities, Chris might be a perfect example of a character we want to use aerial Liberations against. Some theoryfighter to consider:

  1. Superjump with Chris and stock 1D2C; Chris has no air-to-air projectile abilities or anti-airs.
  2. Follow Chris the next time her superjumps ,and Liberate 1D2C, which will rain down the hellfire over his head if you space everything well, and you remain safe during this time.
  3. OTG Purification into Chaotic Flame for big damage.

Even in Vanilla, zoning was not how you handle Chris. Dormammu can’t match his projectile speed or damage. It’s essential for Dormammu to teleport as Chris superjump and try to air grab him or perform mix-ups.

Just my two cents - others are welcome to weigh in.

Yes i was joking. because Dorm could just teleport and smack him down in addition all the things you said. I just wanted to show folks Champ playing as the new dorm considering i havent seen this vid on here

[LEFT]I think there are coulpe of benfits that ppl have missed with aireal charges.[/LEFT]

  1. you can productively stall or turtle when faced with faster beam or projectile characters.
  2. We now have a air to ground TP which acn be used for mix ups/Aireal maneuvering an may even be safer then say wesker’s (though slower) being that it ends in a liberation. Even 0c0d ends in the basic liberation which can be cancle out of to hypers to possibly make safer or kill a character.
    3.With the aireal charges and flight cancle we can be more observante on the other players actions and react accordingly. Ex dorm Sj away from Mags disrupter then Flight cancles and charges a spell. Mags Sj, dorm does Dark Hole and unflight cancles or TP’s.(Now i havent had a chance to touch UMVC3 so things might be as smooth as my example but you get a general idea of what we might potenital have with this.)

If Dorm still had the rumored Air Purification his zone game would be extremly hard to beat.

I agree. Dormammu is somewhat technical to a degree. I think Doom will be more overplayed than Dorm because of j.S’s knockdown properties.

Since Dormammu is able to use flight mode and still combo is it possible that we can do the drak hole air combo with out the need of a TAC?

Yes, it’s going to be possible to use the dark hole during an air combo.

Flashy Nights, I take you to be asking whether we can do Dormammu’s TAC-specific combo without a TAC now, and I do not have an answer for you.

28:40

He recovers before the Flare even gets mid-screen now.

If you take a look at maxes video it seems (99%) like it.

if so Dormammu is going to be that pain in the ass character to eat a combo from.

Alright got to play A LOT of UMVC3 at expo today. I didn’t whore out Dorm too much since I was playing Iron Fist mainly but here’s what I learnt/felt/can confirm:

[LIST]
[]Dark Dimension still has the same hitbox. I managed to whiff a level 3 after knocking down Akuma full screen from an air combo.
[
]Attacking out of downback air dash is GDLK.
[]The nerf to down back air dashes makes it harder to run away. So rapidly jumping back and air dashing with Dorm is not as good as before. This could probably be negated by whiffing attacks to make yourself fall faster.
[
]I can’t say for sure whether his specials have gotten faster but Dorm himself moves very smoothly.
[]cr:m: still whiffs like a motherfucker. And I may be wrong, but it felt like j.:s: sucks them in a little bit when you hit someone with it.
[
]Dorm puts flame carpet out further in the corner. I had to modify the timing/spacing of my bnb because they would fall out of the flame carpet before being picked up by my assist.
[/LIST]

Yea from the videos I have seen I figured his specials don’t come out faster.

I want a black costume for Dormammu!!

And thus, the full magic series buff means nothing. -_-

Thanks for the info Gomu.