Don's Arcade aka Astro City: Torrance/Carson Fridays 8pm-3am

There’s never really an anticipated headcount for any of our gatherings. People just show up. It could be 10, it could be 20, it could be 30, and on that one day last October it could be over 70:)

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we get to start earlier this saturday? :slight_smile:

There are different degrees of greed. Are you insinuating that it is intended to teach people to kill others for their spare change?

Yes but also:

Well if you notice that both the main characters in Super Mario Brothers and Zelda are both low class characters. Mario is a ghetto plumber and Link is an elf. What do both guys got to do? They have to save the Princess. But since they both got nada and are nada to begin with, they just can’t go and rescue the Princess all ghetto. They got to look like that they accomplished something and have a lot of money.

For Mario since he’s a short fat dude, he has to look more like a “Royal Gentlemen” and get some height by taking a mushroom. He also has to have some magic powers to show off to the Princess so he has to gain the ability to shoot fire out of his fingers. In other words Mario isn’t good enough to be himself when he saves the Princess. He has to change his appearance and seem more powerful.

As for Link. In the beginning of the game he has nothing. No money, no sword, no shield. Nada. So he has to work his way up in the world by killing creatures and getting money so he can buy luxuries like a candle and a bow and a arrow. Also before he saves the Princess, Link can’t just go in, in his ghetto green rags. He has to go and spend 250 hard earned rubies and break the bank and buy a blue ring and since that blue ring isn’t good enough, he later has to upgrade to a red ring. Think about it, you need the red ring to save the Princess.

So basically what Miyamoto and Nintendo is trying to tell kids is that women are gold diggers and in order to get with them you have to have the cash and the pedigree or they will never give you the time of day.

So the theme of class plays a big role in Super Mario Bros. and Zelda.

Lol.

but, but, but…

If I didn’t know any better, I’d say you were telling all poor…erm I mean fat kids to do drugs and find guns to shoot at people because otherwise girls won’t like them. It sucks to really find people that believe a girl won’t be interested in them if THEY don’t change to something other than themselves. I for one strongly disagree with this, and I offer my personal experience as proof. I have always been fat…erm poor and have never had trouble in that department.

Also, Mario wasn’t trying to “impress” the princess, he already had her. She was taken from him and he had to rescue her.

I wonder how far Mario’s reach is? Does it really stop at low class, or does it stretch further out to the other lows like say…low self-esteem?

I hate to do this but I have to disagree with you on this bit, as well. Albeit not as much as you might think. I do agree you can’t beat the game without rupies, but it seems to me like this Link never realized that you can get all the items for free, except the upgraded versions, by just playing. You get the candle(lantern?) right off the bat. The rings as well, are unnecessary, because all they do is reduce damage taken by half which in essence is implying that you are going to constantly take damage and not heal. You should never take away from the player himself, because not everyone needs a line draw to show them which way is straight. You won’t necessarily spend all your rupies on healing either because of hearts dropped from creep kills but even then you always get free money all over the place. It’s not like there’s a limit on how much money you can acquire considering you’re dull enough to grind all day. I may be off in my logic regarding this game though as I never really played it. I started at Link to the Past, went back to 2 and got annoyed with 1 after about 15 mins. It was difficult, but not impossible and I had Ocarina of Time to play on my Master Quest cd. I might just play it and get back to you, though.

What Miyamoto and Nintendo forget to tell most “salarymen” is that although MOST women are gold diggers there are those that aren’t. Even the gold diggers don’t give a shit about the money most of the time, if you can convince them that you can do certain things for them that money can’t. You might only get a few weeks, but fuuuuuuuck man, those few weeks are spent way better than a decade of alone time with zeee dollah dollah bills to show for your time. As for legacy or pedigree, as you call it, I will agree with you as far as you need money to maintain that legacy, or children. Then again, you might have been referring to food if you were insinuating that women were bitches. I can’t be sure if it’s one or the other, or shit even both if food is all you really need to live. Bah, who am I kidding, we’re in America. Food is NEVER sufficient to maintain life. Amirite? I wonder what impact Miyamoto and Nintendo intended to have on the general public or if they ever realized what their impact COULD be.

To keep it friendly, I’ll offer you an example myself.

Street Fighter

Street Fighter with a meta game is Street Fighter with a narrow scope of how it is played. This means that somebody had to have designed this part of the game as well. For maximum effect, though, you have to convince the players that they are doing it for themselves. Attack prevents grab prevents block prevents attack. The Street Fighter Holy Trinity.

You’re Ryu and you are walking around Japan after having trained with your homie Ken for the longest time. You are sick of fighting Ken, because although he is good, it’s the same shit you’re doing just faster and with fire on it. You throw a fireball, he throws a fireball. You do spinning kick, he crouches it and punches you in the sack as you pass over head. He does spinning kick and you crouch it and trip him with a low roundhouse as he lands. We get it, you can punish certain moves but he has to be thinking or else it just doesn’t matter. You are in this shit to learn, not to beat him because you’ve beaten him plenty of time and he has beaten you plenty of times as well. You can’t learn from each other anymore, so you both move on. You go downtown and look around for dojos and shit, when suddenly you hear the whispers of Yaocho, and next thing you know you find yourself in the ring with a sumo wrestler. I think his name was E. Chevrolet or some shit. Anyway, dude is fighting in the street now because he didn’t follow sumo rules and fixed his matches. You ain’t no bitch to money though, so you give him all you got and fuck his shit up. Shoryuken and shit. Headbutts turn into CABEZA* and shit. It was fun and all but dude is out of breath and you don’t want to wait for him to finish his meal to get fight again cause you don’t know how long that is gonna take so you leave. Somewhere along the way you run into Ken again and he tells you he caught a bunch of new pokemon and that his shoryuken got way stronger. So pkmn trainer Ken appears and he shoots his fireball at you, you shoot yours, he tatsus, you tatsu, but then he does something surprising. He kicks you and then magically he does another attack and calls it a combo. You get your ass kicked but you this home with you and keep going. “Gotta get stronger” you say but we all know you’re really thinking “man, fuck this dude, he cheated.”. So you’re walking and shit and next thing you know you’re in Russia walking around in the mountains and shit where you run into this like factory mill or whatever. You notice a bunch of dudes in a circle just yelling and throwing money around like there were some bitches there selling raspados(shaved ice in a cup with fruit juice). Upon closer inspection you notice that it’s really just some really big half naked dude tearing apart a smaller man, who I would assume is a co-worker. HE is muuuuuuurkiiing this dude, like seriously tearing him a new asshole. You are a man of conscience, a man of honor and decide to stand up to the bully. “Hey! Homie don’t play that shit!” and this russian man, bites the head off of his co worker and continues towards you. “I am zee Zangief, and I talk you wanna fight?” So Ryu agrees and the bets start rolling in. Zangief goes for his infamous pile driver but ryu is all like, nah fuck that and jumps back and throws a fireball. Then Zangief taunts and as the fireball is getting to him, he starts to spin with his arms out like he was trying to air dry his clothes cause we all know that poor ass niggah doesn’t have a dryer and he can’t possibly always be running around in his underwear. The fireball somehow goes through his chest and out his back, I guess when he spun the fireball imagined his body as a spinning door and just went on through. Now Zangief walks towards ryu and does his lariat thing again in anticipation of another fireball, but Ryu is smarter than that, so he waits a sec and then trips him. Zangief then wakes up with 360 to avoid the pressure and gets ryu, driving his neck into the fucking ground. Zangief continues his lariat pressure because big russian body building left no time for big brain building and Ryu wakes up with a shoryuken. Normally, one shoryuken was enough to stop any opponent but Zang takes it like a champ and gets back up. He starts spinning again. Ryu thinks to himself “Man, this guy is tough. Gonna have to step it up.” So he stops and thinks for a sec (cue montage of last 2 episodes. Ken doing a combo crosses his mind) SCHWWIIIINNNGGGGG!!! Anime lightning eyes! And Ryu sidles over to zangief in typical 2d fashion and hits him with a kick to the ankles followed by an uppercut to the temple as his body rotated midair from the kick to the ankles. This knocks zang out and Ryu is out this bitch. After traversing the Northern Chinese mountain ranges, Ryu finds himself in xi wo lao er, china where he runs into this bitch with some baby made thighs. She can’t tell anyone she has a kid though because then they’ll kill the two of them. They meet and she’s all like, “Hello sir, I am a police officer and you look poor. Come here so I can arrest you, or at least beat you up and then sprinkle some crack on you.” Ryu is all like, I don’t do crack, bitch and fuck you if you think you gonna touch me with those man hands. So ryu decks the bitch and leaves. Ryu starts to walk around the city and shit and sees this limo pass by. He can tell someone is in the limo, but isn’t able to make out who by the tint but he assumes it must be some sort of CEO or movie star because everyone else is driving around on either a bike or a couch with wheels. He then continues on his way. Next Ryu finds himself in India, and he only knows this because of the incessant smell of curry in the air. Shit’s good! Soon after drinking out of the water where they put a bunch of dead people he starts to trip out and shit when suddenly this man comes up behind him and grabs him by the shoulder. Ryu tripping out, hits the hand away and shoots a fireball. The unknown “assailant” then yells yoga! and suddenly disappears and appears somewhere a bit further away from him. “Fuuuuuuuucking tripppppppppiiiiiinggggg ooooouuuuuuuttttttt!!!” Ryu says to himself and continues to chuck fireballs at this thing. WWMD, right? After a few blocked fireballs he stops and looks for his opponent only to see that he is no longer in front. He then feels a much more powerful grip than before and his head starts burning like a mother fucker “Yoga NOOOOOOGIIIIEEeeeeeeee” and he is then thrown away. He gets up and chucks a fireball at his friend there but not before getting kicked in the face from 9 feet away. This confuses him so he does it again and finds himself getting punched in the shins this time. Ryu is tripping fucking balls and is expecting another distanced attack so he, disoriented as he is, accidentally puts all his power into the next attack and fires off a fireball that is most likely as strong as 6 fireballs! That’s right, you heard it here, 6! The sheer force of the fireball pushes Ryu back and the anticipated distanced attack misses but his fireball doesn’t. After the dust clears Ryu notices this scrawny ass brown dude bleeding and shit. He realizes he might have hurt the guy so he helps him out and they establish that it was a misunderstanding and decide to drink some more of that water together before he has to go on his way again. They’re tripping out and shit and have so much fun. He heads on his way again and next he finds himself in Iran. He is all bouncing around and shit cause the hot sand burns his feet and suddenly he hears a loud explosion in the air…or was it?! Next thing you know he gets hit by this blue disc. Upon feeling the sting, he stops to look around to see where it came from. “This is Col. Guile of the US armed forces. Surrender or you will be shot upon once more.” Ryu is all like, fuck you niggah, I didn’t do shit to you. I’m just a traveler passing by. “Bullshit”, says Guile, “I saw you dancing and praying to your God just now for rain. You are a terrorist, I am here to kil- arrest you!” Ryu realizing the stubborn nature of the individual before him prepares for battle. Guile shoots another projectile, sonic boom he calls out, and Ryu returns fire with his own fireball, HADOUKEN! They do this for like 14 hours straight until Ryu decides to take a step forward to close the gap. They do it for another 5 hours until Ryu decides to take initiative again and close the gap some more. Guile noticing this, takes a step back. They go at it again for 10 more hours. Pretty soon Ryu is getting bored, but Guile thinks this is fun so he continues the barrage of Sonic Boom. He must think it’s music or something. Ryu, annoyed decides to jump in and eats a backflip heel kick to the face but lands closer than he was before. Guile in seemingly odd fashion, does something different and stands over ryu, but not close enough to do anything more than a roundhouse sweep. One kick, blocked and Ryu being the beast that he is notices Guile spin a bit, as if he were going to take a second swing at it with another kick. Ryu hating the idea of another days worth of fireballs decides he has to give this next hit his all and really fuck this dude up, so anime lightning across the eyes!! he decks him in the jaw once to lift him, and then using his other arm he punches him in the jaw again and with all his might sends Guile flying into the air. Guile is defeated, it took long cause he fights like a little bitch, but he did it. After not having slept for a whole day + 5/24 Ryu is depleted and he passes out. Upon waking he notices he is inside some sort of airplane. He is sorrounded by lots of boxes and can only assume, that Guile, as much of a little bitch as he is, sent him away to cover up his own short comings because even he wouldn’t kick a man who is down. Ryu convinced that it must be fate, adheres to his new found destiny, or destination, and sleeps. He wakes up in the middle of a wreck, and notices a shadow moving in the distance. “Did the plane crash? How am I still alive? Maybe the shadow had something to do with it?” But now he is too tired, the wreck took a lot out of him, so he passes out once more. Upon waking he is greeted by a green skinned crazy man eating bananas. “AHDSAIDWAU!!! EHEHH!!! EEEE! EEEE!!” said the green crazy man, but Ryu could not understand. This startled the green crazy man, so much it seems, that he began to attack without provocation. Immediately he darted towards ryu, mid air and with the force and trajectory of a cannon ball. Ryu naturally jabbed this dude out of the air, “He shouldn’t have done it from so far” Ryu said to himself. As the freak recovered, Ryu attempted to kick him, but was met with 3249812031289 volts of electricity and pulled back his limb. The freak then flew at him again, luckily Ryu was able to block this time but the freak bounced off of Ryu to a position full scr- 9 feet away from him. This went on for a bit until Ryu pushed him into a tree. Here the green man attempted to escape by catapulting over Ryu but Ryu socked him in his ass and he came hurling back down to the ground. This animalistic being then gave in and surrendered to Ryu with a screech and by tossing a watermelon his way. The green dude got away. Ryu said to himself “What a crazy world we live in. Now to get back to civilization.” Ryu waited rested til sun set, looked at the stars and set some twigs to point north using the stars as a guide.

I am convinced that I made this all up myself, but in all actuality this was probably just one of the n number of ways you can take the game. I bet you sigma, in his lab at the top of Capcom towers, planned this all out so that I could spread the word to you guys and give this seemingly limited little program new life in repetition and then call it metagame.

The message I’m trying to get across is that these games are created with tons of loose ends for us to tie up ourselves. Some of those loose ends are created to appear like they allow for “free will” but for the most part you’re running on rails! If you take this out of video game context and apply it to something more tangible and real then one could say we are born into these situations with the expectation that we transcend them and only the fools who don’t realize that there is a huge game being played here are usually the one that preach for a unified way of thought. It’s a good template or base to work off of, but ultimately you wanna add a little more to it yourself, not add what you saw another guy do. I could’ve illustrated this a lot better if I had made Ryu combo into a super but it’s late and it didn’t occur to me.

Hope you guys enjoyed it.

And if it makes no sense, well then it makes no sense, but I’m not proof reading shit. I gotta pee now.

oh yeah last thing, Link and Mario transcend the “theme of class” by beating the people who had it all from the beginning through skill earned from having worked hard and not through inheritance.

*= Cabeza is what you say when a person lowers their head in front of you followed by the grabbing of their head and pulling to your crotch area whilst thrusting. Middle class don’t know about that, I bet.

Oh yeah and I bet you Honda sales went through the roof after that game was made.

WWMD? = What would Mario do?

What the hell Lenin…

Ultra troll has appeared.

Fucking wall of text

You could have at least put some spaces mang.

tl;dr

he’s just that bored

agree

Lol. All I’m saying is that a lot of these Japanese video game makers use a lot of stereotypical images in their games and when you look underneath the surface you will find a lot of controversial subliminal messages of class and other things. I don’t agree with these images and messages.

It’s like when you watch the Wizard of Oz and find all these hidden meanings.

When you look at a lot of media such as video games produced in Japan there is always a lot of controversial stereotypical imagery. A lot of it is racist and sexist. And a lot of them are American images (such as the ethnic Italian Plumber and the Blond Haired Blue Eyed Princess) since Japan markets a lot of their stuff to America. Take the controversial intro in the original Street Fighter II game where the blond haired blue eyed white guy punches and knocks out the black guy. There is definitely a racial element in there. But what does that image of a white guy knocking out a black guy mean? Is Capcom trying to appeal to white people to like this game so that they could sell it more in America as a marketing strategy? Who knows? The point is, is that the images are there and Capcom is very politically incorrect in using them. It sends the wrong messages.

But there is also a positive side to the images like you point out here. With Link Miyamoto actually wanted to make a game of transcendence. In that you’re right. He said that by starting out with nothing and having a lot of stuff in the end there is that powerful message of “In the beginning I had nothing, in the end now I have everything and I am powerful”.

So there are two sides to look at these images produced by Nintendo. There’s the positive side and the negative side.

TL;WillNeverRead.

Hey Symbolic. It’s your hero’s birthday today. Did you buy a birthday cake?

I’m just kidding Symbolic. I’m just kidding:p

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Lol. Oh man.

did you mean line breaks? or paragraphs? There are lots of spaces in there tee hee.

jk

but in all seriousness, if you just want a good time read that, it’s not supposed to really mean anything other than tee hee this is funny. Also, don’t listen to Tapebot, he don’t know shit even when he thinks he does. I wasn’t JUST that bored, I couldn’t sleep last night and wanted to give Don a worthwhile post to show him I give a shit. Hey Don, I give two shits! I really appreciate what you are doing for the 3s community.

Oh you, you know what I meant.

But both paragraphs and line breaks would be good. :smiley:

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