Did you make sure to take away whatever they were smoking or drinking?
I’ve noticed that whenever members of a game’s community feel the need to bash another game in order to make their game look better, usually that first game’s community is dead, dying, or uncertain of their future.
In short, it happened in this case because the MVC2 player pretty much knows that his game is dead.
no game is hard when its new and ugly shit ALWAYS wins that early on. look @ noah @ EVO last year for mvc3. jump around and hit H all day, good stuff. mvc3 is so much harder than mvc2 that a 6 year old gets top 50!!! its the newness factor, not the complexity\depth of the game.
when the game is new like that, it has its awkward moments. Once mvc2 developed, none of that bobo shit beat good players unless said player was god like. I can only think of 10ish or so players who could beat legitimate top 8 competition with low tiers.
lol @ the players who are trying to judge mvc2 and never played super hard in tournament scenes. I’ve beaten the best players in ATL where branh is from. I beat eric valencia from the maryland area pretty hard @ sb3 where DJ is from I think and the last time I played asian daisy from MD I beat him pretty hard too. The people who are commenting about the game, I’ve beaten their best players from their area so I think I have more weight to the conversation. ATL, joe\max, and eric V are not bad players, all 3 of those guys have gotten top 8 @ nationals before and ATL’s finest took it demon hyo the last year FR had mvc2 iirc
I’m not trying to shit on the people here but you guys may be over your head as far as mvc2 is concerned. There is no way in hell I could talk to djin about how 3s is supposed to play out simply because he was far better @ that game than I ever was. Perspecitve
the depth of a game is never how it starts off but rather how it ends. I was there watching iceman beat fucking msp early on in the game only to see iceman steadily move down the latter for the next few years. @ the end of the games life-span, mvc2 was the hardest tournament game of all time IMO. 3 rounds max, 1 hit kill where as SF games were 6 rounds max and no tod
The trick being that it goes both ways. Judging MvC3 now is about as smart as judging MvC2 as it was in 2000.
Which kind of ties in, people need to consider a games history and growth when thinking about these things. You can’t separate Marvel or 3S from their histories or how gameplay has developed.
the reason being is that we had 10 years of crafting teams, analyzing tier tools sets and how team chemistry applies to the whole game.
when mvc2 was brand new, no one wtf they were doing. It was 3 random characters on 1 team and it was like this for quite some time.
when mvc3\umvc3 dropped, our scene knew who were the best point characters, best anchors, best XF characters, strongest assists w\in 2-3 weeks and in umvc3 case we knew the top 15 within 1 week. the breakdown process from part 2 was there for part 3 so we actually had a stronger head start. There were far more stronger teams in the beginning for mvc3 than there ever was for the start of mvc2.
don’t you wish you could play the games so you know what you’re talking about? I sure as fuck do…
The thing is, you have no idea what that game would look like if it were developed for 10 years (*not that a new game can expect that kind of development now, no matter what. It’s a different time). Maybe we’ve figured it out perfectly, but who in God’s name knows? One of the lynchpins of versus games is there are so many combinations and possibilities it’s almost impossible to predict what people are going to find.
Sure things are faster now, absolutely. But it’s still wrong to judge any game based on the weirdly rarified and specific knowledge and culture of a game that’s had over a decade of dedicated development.
Technically, nobody fuckings agrees what top 15 in Ultimate is, much less optimal teams.
Progression is overall faster, but still long way to go. Practice does not even begin to apply what tech has been discovered as well.
Even in Vanilla, people missed ridiculous shit that nobody will bother with now