i consider the characters debutting in the Alpha series as the coolest in the whole SF franchise… mainly because they include Guy, Cody, Rolento and Sodom (Birdie is kind of meh).
at first i was thrilled about SFxTekken being more like SFxFinal Fight, but the latest developments for that game have the potential to make me really sad. would be such a waste
so yeah, Final Fight definitely made and still makes SF better (and not only that… i love how Haggar turned out in MVC3).
I find it intriguing how Capcom tried to make a combined universe similar to Marvel/DC comics universes with Final Fight and Street Fighter. Especially considering that Muscle Bomber (Slam Masters) and Captain Commando are also part of it.
This question is like asking if poop in a toilet bowl filled with piss makes it better, *it doesn’t. *
If anything, the inclusion of FF characters in the SF universe usually dilutes character originality and balance. Why the fuck do we need a swole ass German dude crushing people, an assimilated ninja jumping around, a white-trash moron, a transvestite, a dumbass with a stick doing 15 hit special moves, and a Mai Shiranui rip-off, invading SF games.
Capcom usually has to rebalance the game multiple times and nerf/buff characters that don’t get logical advantages/disadvantages so they could make way for these dumbasses to be in the game.
Here’s my suggestion, no Capcom stop using FF characters in SF games. Make new characters for fuck sakes. I don’t care if the character is a stick figure or a 4-dimensional cube, just stop using Final Fight Characters.
All this talk about Rival School characters and no mention of Kyoko?
At this point, I just want to see new characters, or at least progression in the character designs. I remember being stoked about Cody’s jailbird design in Alpha3, and also an SF3-stylized Andore/Poison. Okay, we got a new Gen design in 4, but it’s annoying seeing the same characters from 96-98 and having them never change at all. Yeah, just them being in the game’s fanservice enough, but I’m getting sick of it.
I almost want this new fighting game bubble to burst so Capcom can make a totally awesome new fighting game with fresh new characters in the worst possible time again.
It is interesting to read that, as SF4 plays nothing like SF, the attacks have all been changed, basic move properties of most attacks have been changed and the characters’ looks have been changed. If one wants a different fighting game so bad, why not play a different fighting game?
BTW, this topic is pointless: Final Fight characters did not make the Alpha series or SF4 better or worse, the engine differences and how much they have changed most attacks boxes and frame data has.
Well, it was a clear improvement over stuff like Bad Dudes, which used to be our favorite beat’em up many years ago. Old design used to be much more austere, while nowadays they usually put some daring anime kid with a cloak or suit, and some attires above and below that look out of place to me but are understood as “style” by the younger generation.
I guess you can say I still have some sort of loyalty to the franchise and Capcom. I hate SF4 and the direction Capcom’s taken towards the fighting game genre, but I’m still praying that they make a game that’ll make me instantly fall in love with it like they did with 3rd Strike. It’s stupid I know, but I’ll admit to being a fanboy.
I agree with this. It’s like Bret Hart didn’t make WCW any better just because he went there.
It always baffled me why they had to add only Final Fight characters.
Why not also add characters from other Capcoms much better beat-em-ups, eg Cadillacs and Dinosaurs and Warriors of Fate,
SNK did the right thing with King of Fighters.
also turning Cody from a good guy to a convinct really destroyed that character.Guy should be in his place since he is a ninja and Jessica dumped him. whats a better reason to turn to crime? Cody had all the riches and the gal.
I prefered Burning Fight to Final Fight since it was much funnier anyway
Cadillacs & Dinosaurs is not owned by Capcom. They just got the rights to make the arcade game for that series.
I don’t see Guy rejecting his master’s teachings and turning to a life of crime. He’s one of Zeku’s best students, and was disciplined in the ninja’s way of honor. Not to mention Guy was engaged to Maki’s older sister Rena around the time of Final Fight 2 so he’s not salty about Jessica at all.
It makes more sense for Cody to be a convict since he enjoys fighting so much and is an expert in shanking. His jailbird design is the best thing he has going for him. It was pretty original at the time (fighting in cuffs had never been done before in a fighting game) and with so many rip-off designs like Axel, Wade, and Duke(who looks identical to him), Cody needed something to stick out from the pact. It’s a big improvement for FF Cody, who was simply Jessica’s boyfriend and that’s pretty much it. Guy is the 39th successor of Bushin Ninpo and Haggar is the mayor and part-time wrestler, so Cody needed a deeper design.
Well, FF characters fit in the SF universe…Cadillacs and Dinosaurs(aka Xenozoic Tales) is Mark Schultz’s baby, not to mention totally fucking awesome.:tup: Sure I wouldn’t mind seeing them pull some characters from other games, but do it for Capcom Fighting Evolution 2. Except no SFEX characters.
I loved Final Fight when I was comin’ up so when I saw they’d added a few of those characters to Alpha, I was stoked. I wish they’d added Damnd (1st level boss in FF1). He was always one of my favorite characters in the game.