Do you think it's possible to become a top player with limited time?

We’ve all probably heard that well known players have training schedules that are basically like a full-time job. My question is, do you think it’s possible for someone to match these players in a tournament without a similar time commitment if they practice more intelligently? Are there any examples of this?

No. Top players are training smartly and putting in tons of hours.

Hahahahahaha…no.

School?
Work?
Life?

Fuck them all

Nope.

Also being heralded as some FG god isnt worth the possible cost and effort. You cant work a real job/career and do this seriously, unless that job/career/business is somehow related (there are some out there). If not, you’ll likely be broke constantly. And winning every single tourney possible will still get you pretty weak net pay…And you’d have to win them all.

True, but do you think many of them are approaching their training in a really scientific, results-oriented way? I’ve watched some of their streams where day to day they’re just grinding online for hours (talking U.S. players). You don’t think it would be possible for someone to find a sweet spot where they were learning setups and technology as much as possible, but then only playing matches for a shorter amount of time?

People are different so player X will have to invest a different amount of time and effort to reach the same result as player Y. But instead of looking at the grass on the other side, just focus on what YOU need to do, not what others need.

Yes it’s possible but very rare to see…it’s not really something you should hope to achieve to try to bypass the players that actually do put in time to get to where they are today.

I look at it like this: If you want to be good at something, the best, you have to do it as much as you possibly can. The reason a professional musician who plays every night and makes that their career will always be better than one who works a day job and plays on weekends is the pro spends more time with their hands on the instrument and can invest more time into learning the stuff beyond the top layer of what there is to learn.

One of the reasons I like fighting games is because being good at them is a lot like being good at an instrument. The process is the same. But the guy who plays hours upon hours a day will always be better than the guy who only plays a couple hours a night no matter how focused his training is.

Working all day makes it really hard to go into training mode and practice things. I find myself falling asleep while I practice. For this reason, I tend to gravitate towards games that reward more for less effort, like shooters and RPGs. And those games are the kind that I can not play until the weekend and still do alright.

maximize your time you do get to practice and hey, who knows

duc did it

seriously though all you need is decent fundamentals.

I’m sure there’s a few top players out there who actually are busy. I know Combofiend has been relevant for a long time and dude always wore fresh clothes or was in a business suit when he was playing at my local tourneys or when I saw him on stream. Alex Valle I know has a job and he’s always talking about business or real estate. I doubt either of them were typical Empire Arcadia top player that basically full time hobbies fighting games. Quite a few of the local guys around me that play Marvel 3 like Meep and DJ Huoshen place pretty well at tourneys and are or near the level of top players. PZPoy is an electrician and only gets real time to play casuals like once in the week sometimes (while having a girlfriend) yet, still a high level player in Marvel. I know they also have full time jobs and have their own places they live in so I would say it can be done, if the situation is right.

I think a lot of people try to assume that if you have a 4 year college education required job that requires 45+hours of work, that you don’t have time to get good at video games. You must be a part timer at an electronic store and room with 4 guys, have no kids or to be on the safe side…be unemployed to be good at fighting games. That you must be a J.Wong or Chris G and play more than you work and get paid through your play. That’s probably the case for a good amount of fighting gamers, but I know there’s people that stay busy and still find time.

I know some of the Japanese guys are staying busy and fortunately enough, live close enough to a high level arcade scene where making a good set of hours playing a fighting game a day feasible with a 9 to 5 career.

Smart practice and having a good grasp of a game’s engine is a step in the right direction

This actually reminds me of a question I have been meaning to ask for a while. Are there guides out there for people that have to maximize their time? And if so, can anyone recommend one for GG or SG?

Not trying to derail this thread, this seems like the appropriate place to ask that.

I know what you mean. The thing for me is, I truly love fighting games, but not video games in general (other than a sweet spot for classic platformers). I pretty much gave up on the idea of competing but I’m starting to wonder if putting in like 2 or possibly 3 hours max per day could get me anywhere in major tournaments. It’s mostly because I love the games and learning their intricacies, but also just a desire to compete at something.

You’ve gotta play with good people. Online or offline. One of the guys who made top 8 in Marvel 3 this year was basically an online warrior and that game has terrible netcode online. Yet, he put the work in, got the experience, got there.

You could get to a pretty high level on just talent or just grinding, but to be top dog you need both.

Becoming a top-level player by putting in many hours over a relatively short period of time? Unlikely, but possible!

Becoming a top-level player by putting in comparatively shorter hours over a long period of time? Unlikely, but possible!

Becoming a high-level player by putting in comparatively short hours over a relatively short period of time? Unlikely, but possible!

Becoming a top-level player by putting in comparatively short hours over a relatively short period of time? Nope. Sorry. Nope.

Nothing is impossible with willpower. Play, practice with people who challenge you and learn from your mistakes would be my advice.