He didn’t say ‘some women can’t protect themselves’ he said WOMEN can’t protect themselves which is objectively wrong. But in that some vein, if you’re unable to protect yourself you shouldn’t be putting yourself in situations where physical contact is inevitable, shit like slapping somebody or being verbally abrasive. That’s not victim blaming, it’s idiot blaming. If a woman is a whole foot shorter than me (which most are) and don’t work out or have any martial arts training, then they pick a fight with me, who is the idiot? Since I know the answer you’re likely going to deliver, here is the same situation using blu’s retarded analogy before: If I walked up to Mike Tyson, screamed at him, started spitting at him and provoking a fight until he strikes me; who is at fault? Remember, I’m the victim so you can’t blame me. Now, in saying that, since context and comprehension of things isn’t a common trait here, I’ll continue filling in the blanks that you likely won’t be able to yourself.
If somebody gets mugged, it isn’t the victims fault.
If somebody gets raped, it isn’t the victims fault.
If somebody gets into an altercation because they were being mouthy, both parties are at fault, despite one of them getting the short end of the stick most likely.
If somebody gets ridiculously drunk with somebody else and they fuck, both parties are at fault, despite one of them likely being embarrassed because of what transpired.
The stupidity of victim blaming and people that enable the mindset is that you’re saying people shouldn’t take measures to prevent things from happening in the first place. I don’t weld without gloves, I don’t use a chainsaw without a mask and I certainly don’t pry meat from the pan with my barehands, because it’s needless risk. While that is precaution, sometimes you can’t help but get in unfavorable positions, like with Aris and Miranda, but that isn’t to say that you should just go OH WELL and flop down as soon as you’re there. What I was personally saying, all throughout the thread, was that once she was in this situation, she handled it stupidly and did nothing to actively stop it from proceeding. You can say she said ‘nooo’ (amidst giggles, I may add) and call it a day, but by removing the gray shades you make it a simply black and white situation.
Removing all shades of gray presents the Aris situation as this:
Aris made jokes about her body, she left the show.
Maintaining those shades of gray (context and common sense):
Aris made jokes on the same scale as practically every other joke he makes at somebody else’s expense, including men that came to the show. Miranda laughed and acted receptively to the humor instead of stopping the situation dead in its tracks with a stern warning or explanation. Miranda isn’t at fault for Aris making the jokes, but she is at fault for continuing to play along with them and not stomping shit out before it got out of hand. I’m not blaming her for having jokes directed at her to begin with, I’m saying (and have been saying since the start) that she went about stopping shit in the completely wrong fashion and thus let it go on far longer than it needed to.
So with that said, if you still can’t grasp my position by this point, you never will. Feel free to maintain the opinion that women are inferior creatures that require your shelter and constant supervision, but I won’t, simply because I refuse to treat adults like children or invalids.