Now all you gotta do is loop it two more times with FADC:
c.lp, cl.lp, cr.mp, cr.mk xx scissors, FADC, c.lp, cl.lp, cr.mp, cr.mk xx scissors, FADC, c.lp, cl.lp, cr.mp, cr.mk xx PC
If only my execution was that good.
Now all you gotta do is loop it two more times with FADC:
c.lp, cl.lp, cr.mp, cr.mk xx scissors, FADC, c.lp, cl.lp, cr.mp, cr.mk xx scissors, FADC, c.lp, cl.lp, cr.mp, cr.mk xx PC
If only my execution was that good.
Ha, I did that last night after running through testing it with everyone. Got it one time. It only did like, 370 damage at the cost of 4 bars, but it looked dope.
We need skulldiver to hit easier and be harder to reversal against.
Headstomp hit/chip into EX-Skulldiver c.MP c.MK xx HP Crusher is like 35-45% damage total.
Just get gross after blocked head stomp and hold forward then pull back and skulldive last second to autocorrect them. Still though shoto low forward > skulldiver.
Not sure if anybody posted this yet (didn’t feel like reading 58 pages of annotations)
Counter Hit Links
St.Fierce, St.lk
St.Fierce, Cr.lk
St.Fierce, St.RH
St.Fierce, Cr.MK
St.MP, St.LK
Cr.Lk, St.RH
Cr.lk, St.MK
Cr.Lp, Cr.MP
P.S. Somebody try St.HK, Cr.LK on Zangief and Abel.
Most Damaging Combo
FA Level 3, st.MK (close), Cr.MK, HK scissors. (only works on Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Rufus, Viper, Sakura, Dan, Chunli, and a few others.)
hey everyone, long time no see.
I’ve found a local scene here in SF and the 510 so I’ve been nerding it up with them in real time. Plus there’s like two other Bison players at the SFSU dojo so if you"re reading, props and I am enjoying playing with you all.
I recently discovered that cr.strong links to st.short!!! you can continue to combo into a special or roundhouse or whatever but damn is that weird. I notice someone mentioning it earlier in the thread so I guess I’m too late. Is this something you guys already knew about for a while or is it new info?
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Welcome back. I guess noone uses cr. strong to st. short because it was obvious (since it links to slower moves like st. rh and cr. mk) and doesn’t do as much damage as the other options? What’s the advantage of cr. strong to st. short?
EDIT: How would that affect push-back?
Would Cr. strong, st. short, cr. mk xx scissors be easier than cr. strong, cr. mk scissors? I guess that would defeat the purpose because of damage scaling, but it’d look nice.
I’ve messed around with cr strong to st short combos in the past. The damage gain is pretty minimal in most cases. They’re good mostly for style.
The combo is situation and character specific. For one thing, you have to be really close to land the short afterwards (I usually can only do it after a focus crumple). Even then, the short will whiff on about half the cast. For most of the ones that it does work on, the only thing you can combo into is st rh or mk scissors. There are a couple of interesting exceptions though.
On Chun-li, Makoto and Cammy, you can actually link cr mk after the short. This technically isn’t easier, since the mk is a 2 frame link after cr strong or st short, but it does marginally more damage and looks hella cool.
On rufus, you can actually link 2 shorts. However, rh will whiff after the second short, so you have to finish with scissors or fwd (preferably scissors).
On Abel, you can link 2 shorts and the rh. (side note: Abel has an awesome hitbox for standing normals. It’s actually possible to link cr jab, st jab, st short, st short, st jab xx scissors on him).
Sagat is the fun one. On him, you can land cr jab, st jab, cr strong, st short, st rh. Nice little no charge combo that does over 200 damage. This same combo works on Abel, but due to his weird hitbox pushback the timing for getting the short is much stricter than on sagat.
How do Bison players do scissor kicks one right after another? Are you guys using negative edge or lk scissors to make them come out faster? I cant seem to get them going that fast.
Charge buffering. :f: :k:.
Input buffer is stupidly lenient, so you can actually start charging the :db: for your next scissor a few frames before you hit :lk: for your first scissor. So for a scissor loop your training mode inputs will look like this:
:db::lk:
:db:
:f: (after previous scissor finishes)
:db::lk:
:db:
:f:
:db: (initial charge)
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Hitting CH cl.st. lp xx st.mp cancel into super in a tournament
Priceless
For everything else …mastercard.
Not sure iff this got posted before buuuuuuuuuut:
Cross up jumping MK can combo into cr.MP-cr.MK -> H PC or SK whichever is better
PC will give you 300 damage. Note this combo is hella difficult because theres barely enough charge so you need to hit the cr. MP as late as you possibly can and also hit the cr.MK on the 2nd frame of possibily instead of the first (its a 2-framer right?)
Pretty cool but very difficult to use. I know for fact it works on C viper but not sure about others.
s.lk x2, s.hk doesn’t seem to connect on a crouching Rose. s.mk works fine. Yay hit boxes.
I’m having trouble connecting x4 cr.lk xxx scissors. any help on this? also what combos can you do after a j.mk or j.rh cross up.
Off a crossup I do cr.lp xx s.lp -> cr.mk xx scissors.
You can try using an online metronome to help you get the rhythm down. Just match your button presses to the beat.
I think the setting is 160, but I’m not too sure because I didn’t learn it this way.
Off a crossup, the most common combo is cr.lp, cl.lp (or s.lk), cr.mk xx scissors. This doesn’t work on Guy or Balrog, because the cr.mk will whiff on them. In that case you can do cr.lp, s.lk (or cl.lp), s.lk xx scissors. In both combos I prefer to use st.lk.
On a separate note, cl.hp, cr.lk/cr.mk xx scissors whiffs on Juri, even on counterhit. That means for close fierce counterhit combos, you will have to do something like cl.hp, st.hk, or cl.hp, cr.mp (1f) xx scissors.
Ok thanks for all the help guys.
cr.mp, cr.mk xx scissors works on Yun.
I hit ch st.fp fadc cr.lp cl st.lp st.lk cr.mk fp pc in a match.Good to know since Bison doesn’t have much fun combos.