Dhalsim vs. Zangief Thread

Classic Fighting Games Ultra Street Fighter IV
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i posted an indepth post but internet went ghey on me before i could post it so lost it all, but basically:

  1. yes, if not, it will completely beat out your s.rh. Too risky to try and trade/AA him- just slide.

  2. Nope. Watch out for green hands tho to catch your backdash.

  3. you have +2 frame adv. on block, you can therefore throw gief, as giefs SPD takes 2 frames to start up, and throw takes 3, so you have 1 frame in which to pull it off. Its very risky, best to dash back/teleport back. If you are out of space, then I would light slide and backdash afterwards/super (if you have it).

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Also st.rh is a popular move for gief players to buffer super/ultra, so it’s better to get out of there rather than try to punish

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This matchup pisses me off. I can take pretty much any other matchup, even the bad ones, and win a few but against Zangief it’s just an exercise in frustration. I am not pro-level so I tend to make plenty of mistakes - problem is a single mistake means I"m eating lariats which put me right fucking next to gief so he can continue spamming jump d.fierce + lariat.

I mean sure I whittle him down but my 900 health vs his 1200 health and insane damage…it just sucks ass.

I don’t think I’ve beaten a Zangief with Dhalsim online in the last 20 matches I’ve faced one (I’m G1 on XBL), and I"ve faced some retards that did nothing but spam lariat and I sweep them over and over again. Too bad after 20 sweeps he’s barely even half life.

edit: lariat is such a dumb move. it’s basically anti everything - anti air, anti teleport, anti fireball, anti poke, anti jump…all for a single PPP/KKK button being mashed on a pad/stick.

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you can beat lariat with more than sweep. st.fierce, slide in to get in range of bnb starting with c.mk. j.hk beats lariat clean. Yeah, it’s a bit good in this game but it’s far from unbeatable. There’s a lot of great posts before your complaining that have some good info and an entire thread dedicated to beating lariat in the SF4 main section. Soooooo get to reading

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bump (just checking how Dhalsim match-up thread works)

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LOL just goes to show how the tide turned in Super CONSIDERABLY in the MU.

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Im unsure if it rly turned in sim’s favour now. Coz i tink in ae gief can trade wif sim’s jumping strong wif one of his jumping normals. I THINK i got stuffed out of my jumping strong a couple of times last wk. Nt sure abt tis. Nid someone to confirm for me. But if sim’s jumping strong cant beat gief’s normals clean, then i wld say tis matchup is still 5-5

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zangief jump mk beats all Sim normals , unless timed correctly (before he do the mk)

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was it like tis in vanilla? i dun rmb jumping strong losing to any of gief’s normals b4 in vanilla

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gief j.mk > standing limbs
sim j.mp > gief j.mk/empty jump but < early splash or j.lp but those get beat by trip guard s.hp
sim b.hk > any gief jump in but < empty jump => spd.

^^ Pre AE

Massive RPS

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yes it was , but it depends on timing

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hi i cant zone a gief from afar whom i played last nite online. This particular gief abuses his j splash(hp) and his j.mp (wif the superman like animation) everytime he jumps frm afar. My j.mp got beaten clean many times even if i did it on reaction becoz he presses his buttons earlier. Didnt try my s.hk but i guess it still loses or trades wich is not in my favour?? Any antiairs to stop him afar?

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Medium Kick sometimes works.
And if he’s always perssing a button when jumping, you can hit him with any low attack as he land and he won’t be able to block it. (tripguard)
you can use then b.HP (be carefull since it has slow startup) or b.MP evrytime and it’ll hit him from half screen