i assume this is some type of sarcasm
how this a war of opinions
more time and effort was put into those games and it shows
that’s it, its nothing opinion about it
unless your saying it took less time to develop those games
than mvc2 and it and they are both super unbalanced so 3-5 characters dominate the roster magneto style, and that they reused models from somewhere and just threw it in the game like mvc2
because if that’s what your saying
your lying to yourself, i want you to know that.
Nostalgia goggles. Mild trolling.
Theres nothing balanced about Magnus double snapback > assist kill > unblockable incoming kill.
Thats worst than a happy birthday.
Sad.
Really sad.
I’m not the biggest fan of DmC, but even it doesn’t deserve to lose its thread to the ongoing mess of MvC2 vs MvC3 debates.
Nope both TvCs were dominated by less characters than MvC2. Zero broke the last one because he built meter quickly and could get a combo after that burst thing.
Vanilla MvC3, Dante could build 4-5 meters off of Haggar’s Lariat. Add Phoenix to your team and that’s where the game was heading.
UMvC3 already has less team combos than MvC2. Morrigan/Doom pulled a Spiral trap and not many character are able to do shit about it and Zero doesn’t let you play. The only thing is players are being scrubs and saying those teams are too cheap and refuse to play them. Maybe I’m jumping the gun because the game is only a year old now, as is everyone that is comparing current stage of the game to the MvC2 end game, but I doubt it. The game will just be Zero, Viper, Magneto, Morrigan, Vergil with Dante, Doom and Strider assisting.
I’m talking about real MvC2, not the “only 4/5 characters” hyperbole people like to throw out there.
I’ll stop derailing.
TVC: Was eventually broken due to how specific characters(Karas in CGOH and Zero in UAS) could abuse Mega Crash.
MVC3: DHC glitch, TAC infinites (TAC SO BALANCED!)
As much as I do have a liking to these games, you have to know that they have some broken mechanics as well.
EDIT: Mr. X got my shit covered ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Morridoom isnt a real Spiral trap team because pushblock is so good in that game. Its just glorified chip team.
That team is only efficient because people are hardheaded and want to run in guns a blazing and get ate alive. I know this isnt a MVC thread but this misinformation has to be addressed. Joker really made Morridoom look like dirt with the fly unfly after sj to make the missiles go over Magneto’s head.
Several gimmick teams can kill doom or at least make him bleed while running out the meter needed to do the massive chip. Storm, Trish, Spencer, Magneto, Dormammu and Vergil are all foundations that can destroy that setup of Doom spam.
Vanilla was broken. Umvc3 is fine for what it is, MvC2 is definitely broken.
Seriously do the math. The 8 characters and assists system provides more match up possibilities then most fighters with twice as many, if not more characters, and only on a level none of you people play at. Stop acting like cuz a hand full of people boil the game down to 8 people that your stuck with those 8 only. You’re not cuz you’re not that good. Marvel has a wealth of gameplay in it for people who play on a lower level. Unless you compete on Wong/Sanford/Clock levels then the “Marvel only has 8 characters” bullshit doesn’t apply to you so stop pretending it does.
You sound like a tier list whore, the kind of people ruining fighting games right now with so much fucking focus on whether the game is balanced or not instead of whether it’s fun or not.
They’re fucking idiots anyway for looking at balance as a percentage lol. MvC2 has a low percentage of viable characters, still has more viable characters than most games.
That’s what I’ve been trying to say…People have gotten PUR stuff before and just been on the basic membership which doesn’t require any money out of your pocket. I did do a look up on it today and for whatever dumb reason they don’t even mention Vergil’s DLC on the list of preorder bonuses online on the computers. In either case I still say give it a shot and just sign up for the free card and see what happens, I’m just not cool with a GS employee flatly lying and saying the paid card is required just to get numbers.
I really don’t see why people are trying to claim something subjective as objective. It’s like they forget you can have a well-formed opinion and use that to make a case for why something is better than something else.
This I can get behind.
EDIT - The MvC2 hate is dumb. The game was a happy accident, true, but that doesn’t mean something awesome didn’t result. Does that mean it’s perfect and beyond improvement? Of course not; MikeZ made Skullgirls as basically a “better Marvel 2” and it shows (Skullgirls is awesome btw). But Marvel 2 was still an incredibly deep and expansive game.
But thats not the argument I dont think. The system flaws and limitation of non “vs series” characters ie: no flight, double jump, airdash are what ultimately makes only 8-12 of nearly 60 characters playable at high level. At least in MvC3 you can build a team around a character you really like. You cant build a team around SonSon and be competitive. You cant build a team around Marrow and be competitive.
Again, that still isnt the point. The point was Umvc3 isnt actually poorly made, it was very polished, but the system mechanics favor less-skilled players. Thats completely different from inescapable blockstrings and 2-3 50/50 mixups within seconds into death on incoming character unblockables.
Lets not start becoming white knights for MvC2. Again both games have their flaws, but putting emphasis on how the 8 characters in MvC2 that are playable give you move possibility that “half the fighters out” is a very skewered and inaccurate argument. Off the top of my head
TTT2
Skullgirls
MvC3
DoA5
TvC
CvS2
All have an endless possibility of creating the team you want based on the character you like to play. MvC2 doesnt give you that in reality. When you really get down to it, you have lots of characters but you’re better off using the ones who do the things you need a top tier team to do the best. Why play Morrigan when I can play Magneto? There were lots of “poor man” characters.
MvC3 has a lot of poor mans characters too but I digress.
Yea that definitely wasn’t cool in her part :/. At least i paid off anarchy reigns and got some money down for MgsR. I’ll be renting DmC instead oh well…
It’s less white knighting for Marvel 2 and more being sick and tired of people bitching about issues with that game that don’t apply to them. And I didn’t say half. I said most, which is true. Almost all of those games are band new. Marvel 2 is over 10 years old and helped build the subgenre of fighters that makes that list above a possibility. Only CvS2 comes close to matching Marvel 2 in age. I should hope TTT2, Skullgirls, so on have more viable characters then Marvel 2, they came out last year. I should hope devs had learned from what the Marvel series presented over 10 years ago cuz if not then the genre is in worse shape then I thought.
Hell DOA5 is brand new we don’t even know what the tiers for that will look over time yet, and Skullgirls flagging system didn’t work right and had to be completely patched to fix what had become a game of endless combos making it almost a new iteration of the game without having to release a new version, a benefit Marvel 2 never had.
Point taken.
Here’s a post from a MvC2 vet about the character selection
Mixah is truth.
Just learned that Japan calls the new Dante “Dino”. Why?
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Next thing you’ll tell me is Electronic Mail was invented.