re: physical health -
justin DID win 4 tournaments back to back against terrifyingly strong competition. i suppose he’s an exception though.
i do agree we normal folks need some down time, but like anything else irl… down time is a luxury that we cant always afford
I would hate to have been top seed playing choi, then later complaining that since choi is OG he should have been seeded and should never have played me
In example if I lost
to the people complaining:
NO BITCHASSNESS!
So he is the best in the world…
In a game…
That hasn’t been fully released yet…
In all arcades…
Or Console…
Matter of fact outside Crow in the past for tekken…
When has the West Coast even traveled legitly for tekken??
Ok maybe I am over stepping my boundaries so let me fall back.
Outside T6 which I cannot judge since alot of states that have former G’s living there etc don’t have T6 on console or arcade, I haven’t seen how the West Coast holds THE BEST Tekken Competition… that sounds like pure bull to me.
If seperating the top teams was as important as people claim, the major sports would switch to league seeding. What are we saying? that they don’t implement the right seeding system because they don’t understand their sport and we do? Or is it that most people don’t understand what seeding does?
Seeding solves two important problems in leagues:
In SF, we have no league, everyone makes the playoffs, and none of the proposed solutions are objective. Putting seeds on that scenario actually makes things worse. How do you get a seed? Convince some guy that your a good player?
If your problem is that top players aren’t recognized enough, the solution is not seeding, it’s to have more tournaments that attract all of the top players. Once that happens, seeding will follow, or to make an alternative solution like the NBA’s east/west conference and seed that way. Unfortunately when we tried that, everyone then complained that their tournaments should count more than anyone else’s or that now we need players to arbitrarily decide which tournaments should count more than other tournaments.
Most solutions are predicated on the idea that you can create a unbiased ranking from people’s biased rankings, that is not a seeding system, it’s just catering to the popularity of certain players.
Nah, that’s not my problem, actually. In fact, as I said, there’s nothing we could do about it. We have no good ranking system, we can’t do anything more than going off of popularity. It’s why I said Devastation did nothing wrong. They couldn’t go off the basis of anything, really. The only thin unbiased is results, and people don’t play each other often enough to know what the real results are.
My problem is people saying “Who cares about seeding? Good players will win no matter who they face!” I just think that’s too short-sighted. There’s so much more to it than that. As I said, IF (and the big emphasis on if) we had an accurate ranking system, no one here would say seeding is bad at all. So I don’t see why people like Cool-Breeze get shot down for backing a seeding system. The only thing he should be getting shot down for is exactly what you said: we can’t seed because we have no facilities for it.
maybe i wasn’t around SRK long enough to know, but why don’t we have leagues?? and why hasn’t it worked out before?
i’m not sure about the rest of the country, but in socal, between Arcade Infinity and Denjin Arcade, we run ranbats consistently and on a regular basis with a points system that can be catered to run between both arcades. is it hard for other communities to do that as well?
There was a league/ ranking system what have you on SRK a few years ago, but I can’t quite remember what it was called…
But that’s exactly what I’m getting @: You can’t seed these things and be fair unless you want to make it a popularity contest. There is no SF league because everyone has lives to live and few are getting enough from tourneys to live solely from that, and hardly anyone would only want to do this. This would require all the players being at every event to compete for the top spot. I understand playing top comp is taxing on some level, but it is rare you don’t get a break in between unless you are attempting to come from out of the LB, and again you always have a chance to come back. If it were one and done it might be an issue, but as is I can’t understand what the hell the problem is.
I don’t think anyone would say the best players, of that day, did not make it to the finals @ Devestation.
yeah APEX, i was around for that. but from what i understood it as, it tried to weight EVERY single submitted tournament, and the weighting wasn’t fair for those if people wanted to take advantage of it, and didn’t reflect the best players. If some random guy from bumsville submitted sf2 tournaments run at a Pizza Hut.
Why can’t we have a specific few places run seasonal tournaments be a part of the a regional league, specifically arcades or places. I know California has resources to do it, and pretty sure AZ and TX has enough high-profile people that can too.
Great job from Team Empire for taking the 3S title.
so don’t think anyone posted this:
but apparently the phoenix new times covered devastation.
Crossing over
Fighting games are great for spectating since it is such a simple concept. The thousands of users watching from all around the world is not terribly far behind the FPS and RTS streams. Did we ever get that many when you were rocking the RA defense on DM6?
DEVASTATION Results Thread
Hmm… seems like a lot of stuff on in here - I will look at that in a minute, here is the results thread:
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=196138
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